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re: Did Texas force Ewers into the NFL?

Posted on 9/14/25 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
21297 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 2:46 pm to
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I thought he sniffed around the NIL landscape, but didn’t find any big offers, so he opted for the draft.


I don’t think so but I could be wrong. I thought there were teams that would have paid him handsomely. Wasn’t Oregon one of them? I’m old and I could be off base but I thought he was crazy to not stay in college somewhere.
Posted by hookem33
Belton, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
2912 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 2:51 pm to
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Dia Bell is now lost for the season for the 2nd year in a row. I'm not sure what's going on there, but that's a whole lot of snaps he's missed his last two years in high school.


I clearly don't follow recruiting enough. This is the first I'm hearing of this. That's terrible.

Question for you. You've been active on horn forums for as far back as I remember. Even back on the scout site and early rivals days. You were always pretty reasonable.

What's your take on Sark and why he's struggling on offense and why we still have some of the same issues that everyone blamed on Quinn?

I bitch about Sark all the time but I do so without having any real clue what the issue is...other than "it's not working"

edit: I just read Gerry Hamilton's report on Dia. Fml. I hope we have a backup plan if this is going to be an ongoing issue with his health.
This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 3:06 pm
Posted by SL Xpress
Member since Mar 2023
368 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:09 pm to
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...yet, he went to another school prior to TX.


Yeah, he realized he didn't want to play for Tom Herman. Smart move.

I'm just telling you what the thought process was. I'm not defending it. He did go to Ohio State after reclassifying to take advantage of some NIL opportunities. It didn't work out at Ohio State. Tom Herman got fired. Steve Sarkisian was hired instead, so he chose to transfer. He was originally committed to Texas. I don't care that much about any of it.

I do know if he had transferred to somewhere else he would be thought about differently - just like nearly all transfers are - and he decided that's not what he wanted.
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
3291 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:20 pm to
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I just don't think that entered the calculus. He wanted to be remembered as a Longhorn, not something else.



I don't buy that for a minute...

Ewers thought he was going to be a high draft pick. He was projected to be in the upper rounds. He was supposed to be a top 5 QB pick. He basically got blindsided.

If he had known he was going to be a seventh rounder... I don't think there is any way he wouldn't have chosen to try to up his stock by playing at another place for a year.

If he were truly all about Texas and his Longhorn legacy... I don't think he would have ever taken the Ohio State detour.
Posted by SL Xpress
Member since Mar 2023
368 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:22 pm to
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What's your take on Sark and why he's struggling on offense and why we still have some of the same issues that everyone blamed on Quinn?


Thank you for the nice comments.

Without making it my usual 2000 word essay, I do feel like the main issue right now is Manning - which still falls at Sarkisian's feet, since he's the head coach. That's just how it goes.

I don't understand why Manning is struggling the way he is, but he is. There's something mental going on. It didn't show up in his limited play against UTSA and Mississippi State last year. It's not showing up in practices. But IMO he's got the yips. It becomes a confidence thing. It can happen to any of us. He hasn't had a lot of adversity in his life. This has to be the first time he's really felt like he's failed at something he really wanted. That's tough. If he overcomes it he'll be better off for it, but there are no guarantees in life.

There was a famous pitcher for the St. Louis Cardinals back in 2000 by the name of Rick Ankiel who suddenly lost his ability to throw strikes. He had a very interesting career, but the basic deal is when you lose your confidence it can be crippling. There's only one way to get it back, really. You have to earn it by having success. You can listen to all the Tony Robbins tapes you want. You can visualize and manifest yourself like an Indian spiritual guru, but at the end of the day you have to experience success. These first three games have been extremely painful for all of us Texas fans, his teammates, the coaching staff, but it's been hardest on Manning. I have some sympathy for him, but at the end of the day I'm more of a Texas fan than I am a Manning fan. I hope he figures it out.

It was so exciting when he committed. I was really looking forward to seeing him be the starting QB. But now we're kind of trapped a little bit. He's not a normal starting QB. You can't just sit him. There are going to be a lot of consequences, some of which can't be foreseen. So we'll see how it goes.

I know Sarkisian has his own issues we've seen manifested. I am starting to question what we're doing with our offensive line, too. But a lot of it doesn't matter if Manning doesn't fix himself. And a lot of it gets diminished if Manning starts playing like he's capable of.

I'm grateful we have the defense we do. We'll be in every game on that alone. But there's no chance this team can accomplish what I expected unless Manning improves his play.
Posted by SL Xpress
Member since Mar 2023
368 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:25 pm to
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I don't buy that for a minute...


You're entitled to whatever view you want to have of it. But this is based on private conversations Ewers had with the people around him. Believe what you want. I'm not here to convince you of anything.

The Ohio State detour came while Tom Herman was the head coach. Herman was a debacle of a hire. Ewers originally committed to Texas until it was apparent he didn't want to play for Herman. Hard to blame him.

You are absolutely correct Ewers did not foresee he was going to be a 7th rounder. I've already stated that could have changed the calculus. But he didn't have that as part of the equation.
Posted by hookem33
Belton, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
2912 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:50 pm to
Yeah I love this defense. Good points. Sark has got to figure out how to slow down the game for him.
I dealt with the confidence thing myself in high school. I was a 3a all district short stop who lost a game on a ball i snag 99 times out of 100. It fricked with my confidence to the point that I was never able to recover. Ended up on the bench as a backup the 2nd half of the season. I went from concordia recruiting me to telling me I could walk on and “try out”. I ended up going to the University of Texas, so it all worked out in the end, but that was a rough patch for sure. I never played again.

Granted that’s a much smaller scale than what arch is going through but I have seen firsthand what you’re talking about and it’s crippling
This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 6:52 pm
Posted by hookem33
Belton, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
2912 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:57 pm to
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I don't buy that for a minute...


Sl is 100% accurate. I have been told the exact thing and don’t remotely have the connections that he does.

Playing for texas was his childhood dream. Turtle tom herman was just that bad.
Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
1815 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 7:00 pm to
Ewers and now Arch. That's two very highly rated QBs that have atrophied under Sark. Compounding the issue is that Sark is supposed to be the guru of football offense. At this point, why would a good QB prospect want to enter his system other than for $$$?

Rodo
Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
1815 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 7:03 pm to
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Turtle tom herman was just that bad.


I know the families of two highly rated prospects that were intensely recruited by UT. Independently, they described their visit to Austin as very strange. Not good or bad, just strange.

Rodo
Posted by hookem33
Belton, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
2912 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 7:05 pm to
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Ewers and now Arch. That's two very highly rated QBs that have atrophied under Sark. Compounding the issue is that Sark is supposed to be the guru of football offense. At this point, why would a good QB prospect want to enter his system other than for $$$?


It’s definitely concerning, but I would be a lot more concerned if not for NIL. Most of these blue chip players are looking for the biggest check so you can always find one. may not be your first choice, but you can find one.
Posted by hookem33
Belton, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
2912 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 7:07 pm to
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I know the families of two highly rated prospects that were intensely recruited by UT. Independently, they described their visit to Austin as very strange. Not good or bad, just strange.


Some of the stories I read about Tom were wild. I don’t have any first hand knowledge but I bet SL does.
My favorite was he and his wife getting in a drunken fight on an airplane and her trying to open the door mid flight. I don’t know if I buy that story but it’s one of those stories that I want to be true lol
Posted by SL Xpress
Member since Mar 2023
368 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:08 pm to
It's the same kind of thing, though.

I've seen it with sales people. They go through a rough patch, and it screws with their head.

I've seen it the other way, too. Someone suddenly blossoms because for whatever reason they get a surge of confidence and the feeling they can accomplish anything. Even the best performers can reach a higher level of performance when they feel a sort of flow. It's like they're untouchable. Regardless of the endeavor.

But who knows what the future for Manning holds? It's just a bummer as a fan to watch him go through this.
Posted by BigHorn69
Member since Nov 2024
415 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:35 pm to
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At this point, why would a good QB prospect want to enter his system other than for $$$?


Well how'd you convince people to keep coming to Transfer QBU ?
Posted by BevoHornsUp
Member since Feb 2023
226 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 9:15 pm to
Yes. There was no way Texas was going to force Arch to sit on the bench for 3 years. There's no way we could have predicted what has taken place so far with Arch at the helm. However, Ewers definitely needed this extra year to develop. Had Ewers played well this season I think he would have been drafted higher than the 7th round. It's an unfortunate situation for Ewers.
Posted by hookem33
Belton, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
2912 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 6:59 am to
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Had Ewers played well this season I think he would have been drafted higher than the 7th round. It's an unfortunate situation for Ewers.


The most concerning thing for a lot of horn fans is the fact that quinn had three years in sark’s system and still had some of the same issues as the day he showed up on campus.
A lot of us are seriously wondering if the problem is the guy in charge, especially after seeing how poorly arch is playing.
I don’t know what the future holds for arch but I’m rooting for him. He’s done everything right and I hate to see him going through this slump.
Posted by LSUTigresFan
SE Louisiana to Austin (Texas Ex)
Member since Mar 2013
6555 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 7:31 am to
Quinn Ewers said he didn't want to transfer to another school.
Posted by NtxSooner
McKinney Tx
Member since Jul 2021
158 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:17 am to
Its actually pretty obvious to everyone but horn fans. Sark is a good to great play caller, at times. He may even be a good head coach. But he is a lousy QB Coach and mentor to those QB's in Austin. Ewers was solid and should have been better than he was when he left, Thats on Sark, no question.
You cannot convince me, myself having a shoulder injury from Pitching, that Manning isnt injured. He looks it when he is throwing the ball! His confidence may be shot, but thats the reason IMO, he cant make the same throws he was. Dont be surprised if/when that comes out.
Posted by AggieArchitect2004
Member since Oct 2023
3465 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:26 am to
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I think any of the Aggie QBs who left A&M would return to warm welcomes with the exception of Murray.
Murray was indeed a bitch, but I had to peel myself off the fricking floor after Kyle Allen threw THREE pick 6’s in a single home game…41-23 loss against Alabama.

I never thought I’d see that happen.

I’m not sure I could stomach seeing him again on campus.
Posted by LSUTigresFan
SE Louisiana to Austin (Texas Ex)
Member since Mar 2013
6555 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:29 am to
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You cannot convince me, myself having a shoulder injury from Pitching, that Manning isnt injured. He looks it when he is throwing the ball! His confidence may be shot, but thats the reason IMO, he cant make the same throws he was. Dont be surprised if/when that comes out.


Texas fans have been saying it is a possibility since game 1. His throwing motion is not consistent with what it was last year.
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