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Did Texas and Oklahoma play its hand too soon?
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:17 pm
Today Texas and Oklahoma told the Big 12 that it will honor the existing Grant of Rights agreement but will not renew it in 2025.
Is it official that the SEC will accept Texas and Oklahoma? Don’t the SEC schools still have to vote on it? I realize it’s a foregone conclusion but should Texas and Oklahoma have waited until the SEC would officially accept them if they left the Big 12.
Also, wouldn’t a voting member of the SEC want to know what the future divisions, pods, scheduling, etc. will be before they voted?
Is it official that the SEC will accept Texas and Oklahoma? Don’t the SEC schools still have to vote on it? I realize it’s a foregone conclusion but should Texas and Oklahoma have waited until the SEC would officially accept them if they left the Big 12.
Also, wouldn’t a voting member of the SEC want to know what the future divisions, pods, scheduling, etc. will be before they voted?
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:18 pm to gumbeaux
it should happen by next year
there are lots of legal issues, and today was simply one of those
there are lots of legal issues, and today was simply one of those
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:18 pm to gumbeaux
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Don’t the SEC schools still have to vote on it?
They've either already voted or know exactly what the vote will be
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Also, wouldn’t a voting member of the SEC want to know what the future divisions, pods, scheduling, etc. will be before they voted?
They already know this- we don't
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:24 pm to gumbeaux
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I realize it’s a foregone conclusion but should Texas and Oklahoma have waited until the SEC would officially accept them if they left the Big 12.
I don't think the SEC would reach out first because they didn't want any lawsuits from the Big12.
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:25 pm to gumbeaux
It's just how these things work. For example, Mike Slive and the SEC would not reach out to TAMU/MIZZ ten years ago, we had to reach out to the SEC. Mike Slive had it work that way so the SEC could avoid a tortious interference claim from the Big 12.
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:27 pm to gumbeaux
Even if the SEC votes no (highly unlikely), the sips and sooners are done with the Big XII. Rumor has it texas will look into going independent if this doesn’t work out but worse case the B1G is kicking their chops.
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:28 pm to gumbeaux
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Today Texas and Oklahoma told the Big 12 that it will honor the existing Grant of Rights agreement but will not renew it in 2025.
They had to do that for legal reasons. If things continue to progress, they will be in the SEC by 2022. 2023 at the very latest.
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:30 pm to gumbeaux
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:31 pm to gumbeaux
No. Worst-case scenario, Texas and Oklahoma could change their mind and decide to stay in the Big 12. Just like the guy whose ex-girlfriend has a killer rack, the Big 12 would be falling all over itself if that pair decided to come back.
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:33 pm to RollTide1987
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They had to do that for legal reasons. If things continue to progress, they will be in the SEC by 2022. 2023 at the very latest.
Yep...if I could put money on it, I'd bet they are in the conference next season.
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:33 pm to Bama Bird
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:35 pm to gumbeaux
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 4:10 pm to gumbeaux
No - they are playing a game of chicken to see who blinks first. They have created instability by making their desires known. Their hope is that other conferences will come calling and 2 more schools will be picked up. Once they get to a total of 4 schools exiting, the penalties for exiting ($$$) go away. If schools don't do anything, they will have to decide if they want to pay the ~$75M each or stick around the conference longer.
While the situation was different, there were some similarities when A&M left. Probably the biggest thing is the SEC wants to avoid interference claims, so they won't be sticking their neck out for Texas and Oklahoma. Texas and Oklahoma have to exit at which point the SEC can formally offer. When A&M was leaving, they were slowly wading through the water to ensure there were no upcoming or pending lawsuits. Once those were cleared, they received a formal invite from the SEC. I would expect the same here (although the media is reporting that it will move much faster this time around).
I'm sure there is clear language on how to exit the conference, but the quickest and easiest way to dissolve the conference. That is what you are seeing now.
If the remaining schools stick it out, it will become much more painful to leave (most likely in terms of money), but potentially having to stay - otherwise Texas and Oklahoma's media rights in the SEC would be owned by the Big 12 and I don't even know how that would work.
While the situation was different, there were some similarities when A&M left. Probably the biggest thing is the SEC wants to avoid interference claims, so they won't be sticking their neck out for Texas and Oklahoma. Texas and Oklahoma have to exit at which point the SEC can formally offer. When A&M was leaving, they were slowly wading through the water to ensure there were no upcoming or pending lawsuits. Once those were cleared, they received a formal invite from the SEC. I would expect the same here (although the media is reporting that it will move much faster this time around).
I'm sure there is clear language on how to exit the conference, but the quickest and easiest way to dissolve the conference. That is what you are seeing now.
If the remaining schools stick it out, it will become much more painful to leave (most likely in terms of money), but potentially having to stay - otherwise Texas and Oklahoma's media rights in the SEC would be owned by the Big 12 and I don't even know how that would work.
Posted on 7/26/21 at 4:22 pm to TouchDownSEC
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ESPN is calling all of the shots.
If someone says I'll pay you
a if you do x
b if you do y
c if you do z
c>b>a
and you choose to do c because it pays you a lot of money.
Who is calling the shots?
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