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Did Notre Dame always know the Big 10 was trouble?
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:36 am
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:36 am
Why did Notre Dame affiliate itself with the ACC rather than the Big 10 when Notre Dame is geographically in the Big 10 region and more of its rivals are in the Big 10?
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 11:38 am
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:37 am to Shaft Williams
Because they participate in other sports as an ACC member, I assume.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:38 am to Shaft Williams
In Fairness to ND the Big10 always thought they had leverage over them because of location and rivalries and ND proved they did not.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:38 am to Grillades
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Because they participate in other sports as an ACC member, I assume.
he means as to why they always refused to join the Big Ten...
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:40 am to LSURulzSEC
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he means as to why they always refused to join the Big Ten...
Exactly. When ND affiliated itself with the ACC the Big 10 was arguably at its strongest. I just want to know why.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:40 am to Shaft Williams
Because the Big 10 wouldn't accept the cucking that is partial participation and would have forced ND to join and give up some of that sweet independent NBC TV money. The ACC however? They're into that.
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 11:42 am
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:42 am to LouisvilleKat
But, Notre Dame is splitting their money from their TV contract with NBC with the ACC. LINK .
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:43 am to Shaft Williams
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Exactly. When ND affiliated itself with the ACC the Big 10 was arguably at its strongest. I just want to know why.
Probably because the ACC let ND join in all sports except football. Big Ten wouldn't take ND unless football was included.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:46 am to Shaft Williams
ND wanted to run a conference like their own little fiefdom.
The ACC was the only conference that would take it.
The ACC was the only conference that would take it.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:46 am to Toroballistic
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Probably because the ACC let ND join in all sports except football. Big Ten wouldn't take ND unless football was included.
this...
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:46 am to chillmonster
Sometimes you have to give a little to get a little. The ACC deal with ND is looking genius right about now if things hold.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:47 am to Shaft Williams
quote:Well thats news to me. They just make that call this year?
But, Notre Dame is splitting their money from their TV contract with NBC with the ACC. LINK .
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:49 am to Shaft Williams
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But, Notre Dame is splitting their money from their TV contract with NBC with the ACC.
Right and the Big 10 told them to frick off with that bullshite and share all the money or kick rocks.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:54 am to LouisvilleKat
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But, Notre Dame is splitting their money from their TV contract with NBC with the ACC. LINK .
It's a 1 year thing. ND only did it because they are playing a full conference schedule and can win the conference. Never been possible before until the covid
Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:13 pm to Shaft Williams
Always been about egos and attitudes.
Notre Dame wants to stay top dog. Big 10 has had Ohio State and Michigan forever, and added Penn State a couple decades ago. Notre Dame would never be above them, it would be a 4-way at best.
Then, when Nebraska came, and has shown no signs of life, that was probably something Notre Dame noted. Kinda like watching Arkansas in the SEC.
Strong program comes in, can't establish solid footing in the new schedule/recruiting, drops several tiers in prestige. National prominence is destroyed.
That's the danger of super-conferences... you might think if the SEC takes Oklahoma, for example, it's all hunky-dory.
Oklahoma's CLEARLY ahead of, say, Auburn, right?
Well, Auburn has been traditionally a team with more losses, but they've also been a team brawling through an SEC schedule.
Oklahoma has been a team owning it's conference, like Nebraska had been.
You come into a new mix, you might find out you aren't competing with Alabama at the top, you're competing with A&M, Arkansas and Miss State to say out of the bottom.
Notre Dame in the Big 10, wants to compete with Ohio State for dominance, but you get Penn State, Wisconsin, Michigan, and then several others coming at you every year. They could end up like Nebraska, great history and playing for 5th place.
Notre Dame wants to stay top dog. Big 10 has had Ohio State and Michigan forever, and added Penn State a couple decades ago. Notre Dame would never be above them, it would be a 4-way at best.
Then, when Nebraska came, and has shown no signs of life, that was probably something Notre Dame noted. Kinda like watching Arkansas in the SEC.
Strong program comes in, can't establish solid footing in the new schedule/recruiting, drops several tiers in prestige. National prominence is destroyed.
That's the danger of super-conferences... you might think if the SEC takes Oklahoma, for example, it's all hunky-dory.
Oklahoma's CLEARLY ahead of, say, Auburn, right?
Well, Auburn has been traditionally a team with more losses, but they've also been a team brawling through an SEC schedule.
Oklahoma has been a team owning it's conference, like Nebraska had been.
You come into a new mix, you might find out you aren't competing with Alabama at the top, you're competing with A&M, Arkansas and Miss State to say out of the bottom.
Notre Dame in the Big 10, wants to compete with Ohio State for dominance, but you get Penn State, Wisconsin, Michigan, and then several others coming at you every year. They could end up like Nebraska, great history and playing for 5th place.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:00 pm to Scoob
If you look at the big 10 champions history, Michigan's has one it about 70%, OSU 27%, and others receiving votes about 3%.
Its even more lopsided than bamas reign over the sec.
Its even more lopsided than bamas reign over the sec.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:02 pm to Shaft Williams
The history of hate between ND and the Big X is long and intense. In the beginning, Ohio State and Michigan blocked ND’s entrance to the new Big X. Since then, ND has saluted every overture from the Big X with a giant middle finger.
ND will never join the Big X. I’m sure they’re praying that the ACC will go ahead with fall football so that the Irish can rub it in.
ND will never join the Big X. I’m sure they’re praying that the ACC will go ahead with fall football so that the Irish can rub it in.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:05 pm to Shaft Williams
Now would be the time to make them join the ACC.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:10 pm to lootershooter
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Now would be the time to make them join the ACC.
Nothing at all can be done until 2036. The Irish/ACC contract runs until then. One of the stipulations is that if ND joins a conference in football, it must be the ACC.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:19 pm to Toroballistic
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Probably because the ACC let ND join in all sports except football. Big Ten wouldn't take ND unless football was included
And If ND joins a conference in full, Do they HAVE to join ACC or can they shop around when all other sport contracts are up?
Would you assume they are a full 1/14th member or do they try Texas shite and try to piss everyone off?
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