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Did Notre Dame always know the Big 10 was trouble?

Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:36 am
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
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Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:36 am
Why did Notre Dame affiliate itself with the ACC rather than the Big 10 when Notre Dame is geographically in the Big 10 region and more of its rivals are in the Big 10?
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 11:38 am
Posted by Grillades
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:37 am to
Because they participate in other sports as an ACC member, I assume.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:38 am to
In Fairness to ND the Big10 always thought they had leverage over them because of location and rivalries and ND proved they did not.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:38 am to
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Because they participate in other sports as an ACC member, I assume.



he means as to why they always refused to join the Big Ten...
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9443 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:40 am to
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he means as to why they always refused to join the Big Ten...


Exactly. When ND affiliated itself with the ACC the Big 10 was arguably at its strongest. I just want to know why.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:40 am to
Because the Big 10 wouldn't accept the cucking that is partial participation and would have forced ND to join and give up some of that sweet independent NBC TV money. The ACC however? They're into that.
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 11:42 am
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9443 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:42 am to
But, Notre Dame is splitting their money from their TV contract with NBC with the ACC. LINK .
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
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Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:43 am to
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Exactly. When ND affiliated itself with the ACC the Big 10 was arguably at its strongest. I just want to know why.


Probably because the ACC let ND join in all sports except football. Big Ten wouldn't take ND unless football was included.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:46 am to
ND wanted to run a conference like their own little fiefdom.

The ACC was the only conference that would take it.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77321 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:46 am to
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Probably because the ACC let ND join in all sports except football. Big Ten wouldn't take ND unless football was included.




this...
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9443 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:46 am to
Sometimes you have to give a little to get a little. The ACC deal with ND is looking genius right about now if things hold.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18224 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:47 am to
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But, Notre Dame is splitting their money from their TV contract with NBC with the ACC. LINK .

Well thats news to me. They just make that call this year?
Posted by Miznoz
St. Louis
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:49 am to
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But, Notre Dame is splitting their money from their TV contract with NBC with the ACC.


Right and the Big 10 told them to frick off with that bullshite and share all the money or kick rocks.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12388 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:54 am to
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But, Notre Dame is splitting their money from their TV contract with NBC with the ACC. LINK .



It's a 1 year thing. ND only did it because they are playing a full conference schedule and can win the conference. Never been possible before until the covid
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20411 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:13 pm to
Always been about egos and attitudes.

Notre Dame wants to stay top dog. Big 10 has had Ohio State and Michigan forever, and added Penn State a couple decades ago. Notre Dame would never be above them, it would be a 4-way at best.

Then, when Nebraska came, and has shown no signs of life, that was probably something Notre Dame noted. Kinda like watching Arkansas in the SEC.
Strong program comes in, can't establish solid footing in the new schedule/recruiting, drops several tiers in prestige. National prominence is destroyed.

That's the danger of super-conferences... you might think if the SEC takes Oklahoma, for example, it's all hunky-dory.
Oklahoma's CLEARLY ahead of, say, Auburn, right?
Well, Auburn has been traditionally a team with more losses, but they've also been a team brawling through an SEC schedule.
Oklahoma has been a team owning it's conference, like Nebraska had been.
You come into a new mix, you might find out you aren't competing with Alabama at the top, you're competing with A&M, Arkansas and Miss State to say out of the bottom.

Notre Dame in the Big 10, wants to compete with Ohio State for dominance, but you get Penn State, Wisconsin, Michigan, and then several others coming at you every year. They could end up like Nebraska, great history and playing for 5th place.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:00 pm to
If you look at the big 10 champions history, Michigan's has one it about 70%, OSU 27%, and others receiving votes about 3%.

Its even more lopsided than bamas reign over the sec.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:02 pm to
The history of hate between ND and the Big X is long and intense. In the beginning, Ohio State and Michigan blocked ND’s entrance to the new Big X. Since then, ND has saluted every overture from the Big X with a giant middle finger.

ND will never join the Big X. I’m sure they’re praying that the ACC will go ahead with fall football so that the Irish can rub it in.
Posted by lootershooter
Member since Sep 2019
395 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:05 pm to
Now would be the time to make them join the ACC.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:10 pm to
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Now would be the time to make them join the ACC.


Nothing at all can be done until 2036. The Irish/ACC contract runs until then. One of the stipulations is that if ND joins a conference in football, it must be the ACC.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30302 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:19 pm to
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Probably because the ACC let ND join in all sports except football. Big Ten wouldn't take ND unless football was included


And If ND joins a conference in full, Do they HAVE to join ACC or can they shop around when all other sport contracts are up?


Would you assume they are a full 1/14th member or do they try Texas shite and try to piss everyone off?
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