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re: Did Alabama Deserve to Make the Playoff? (Post playoff/bowl analysis)

Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:56 pm to
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So each year, 2 playoff teams will have not deserved to be there because they lost semi-final games? That's essentially what you are saying, and it's dumb as shite and you wouldn't be saying it if it weren't Bama involved.


NO! That is NOT what I am saying.

I am bringing this up because the SEC completely fell apart in bowl games against the other conferences and embarrassed themselves. That makes Alabama's schedule look VERY weak now. So, it occurred to me.

Who did Alabama beat that was worth a crap all season long?

Mississippi State. They were beaten soundly by Georgia Tech, a team that Florida State beat.

Who did Alabama lose to? Ole Miss. The same Ole Miss that TCU destroyed.

Why is this so hard to grasp?

It isn't because of Alabama, per se. It is because Alabama's schedule was humiliated during the bowl games. So, the question arose.

Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:58 pm to
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What did TCUs opponents do in their bowl games? I believe TCU is the only team to win a bowl out of the Big12.


TCU destroying Ole Miss is what made me think of it.

Texas A&M, Arkansas, and Tennessee are Bama's opponents that won their bowl games, I believe. We are talking about teams with a combined record of 22-17 there and they were lower level bowls.
Posted by lsufancy63
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2013
796 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:59 pm to
Hey it's no sense trying to make logic especially to bama fans. You do have a point especially how the SEC west turned out. TCU by far would kick bama's arse. Hey I like their colors as well!!!
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:00 pm to
The only team that "deserved" to be in was Florida St. As a Power 5 team, it doesn't matter how bad you look if you are undefeated. The other 3, along with Baylor and TCU all had cases to be in.

Personally, TCU was my choice as best team and deserved to be in. Best loss of the 5 1-loss teams. Co-conference champs. I would not have put Ohio State in, but they certainly proved they belonged. I see the OP's point though, Alabama had weaknesses all year. Won some games they could and should have lost.

Oregon had a solid case since they took injuries into account. Which I guess you could for Ohio State as well. Just need to go to 6 or 8 teams, P5 conf champs plus wild card.
Posted by asphinctersayswhat
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
3360 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:01 pm to
It really doesn't matter. The po committee picked team that played in and won their conference championship game. The Big12 fricked all their schools by going back to a round robin format.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21123 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:01 pm to
The assumption that every possible question about a team is considered an attack and that any question whatsoever about the superiority of Alabama in particular and the SEC in general is considered to be out of bounds or stupid is exactly what will be the downfall of this conference.

Arrogance.

We talk about this kind of stuff after the BCS EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR. It is what led to the 4 team playoff. I just applied it to the semifinal round only because the SEC collapsed in the bowl games - something that has become a national story.

Yes, there is lots of stupid in this thread. A lot. I agree.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:02 pm to
Oh my god shut up
Posted by Chronic
Member since Nov 2013
1096 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:03 pm to
You're literally too stupid for anyone to waste their time pointing out the flaws in your third-grade level logic.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111524 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:03 pm to
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Jesus Christ


Seriously.
All you LSU fans posting this idiocy need a good frontal lobotomy.
Posted by Rbama13
Birmingham, AL
Member since Jul 2011
685 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:03 pm to
When the Big 12 adds 2 more teams and is once again "The Big 12," and has a proper Conference Championship Game then they will get a fair shot at the Playoff. Until then there should not even be a debate.

The Big 12 should add The University of Houston and maybe a team like Northern Illinois. I think both teams would be good additions to their conference.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21123 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

It really doesn't matter. The po committee picked team that played in and won their conference championship game. The Big12 fricked all their schools by going back to a round robin format.


I know it doesn't matter. It is a hypothetical AFTER the bowl season.

I NEVER thought that Alabama did not deserve to be in before the other night. Of course they did! And, the only thing that made me think of this was the way that the SEC West fell apart - NOT because Alabama lost to Ohio State.

Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:03 pm to
Well just look at the responses by non-Bama fans ITT, and you should have your answer. That simple.
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:04 pm to
Please, again I beg, make it stop.
Posted by asphinctersayswhat
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
3360 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:08 pm to
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I NEVER thought that Alabama did not deserve to be in before the other night. Of course they did! And, the only thing that made me think of this was the way that the SEC West fell apart - NOT because Alabama lost to Ohio State.




Well, why don't you look at what TCUs reg season opponents and see how they fared in their bowl games? Not very well. You're not using the same standards to measure both teams.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21123 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:08 pm to
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Oh my god shut up


This type of response is literally all that you are capable of. Every time I see your name here, I expect some kind of response like this that has zero thought put into it. You offer nothing else.

But, I can expect you to show up any time that you think Alabama is being insulted. You can't even comprehend that the post is about the weakness of the SEC West and has nothing to do with Alabama at all. It is their SCHEDULE that fell apart that made me think of this.

OF COURSE Alabama deserved to be there before the bowl games. I never thought otherwise. And, Alabama losing to Ohio State had NOTHING to do with what made me think about this.

It was ALL prompted by the miserable showing of the SEC West and TCU's destruction of Ole Miss. But, all that you can see is "Alabama" and you fear that I am taking a shot at your team. How does Alabama control what the other teams do?

Seriously. Read.
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
7807 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:09 pm to


Can somebody just make this thread stop...
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21123 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

Well, why don't you look at what TCUs reg season opponents and see how they fared in their bowl games? Not very well. You're not using the same standards to measure both teams.


TCU's one loss was to Baylor. Alabama's loss was to Ole Miss - the team that TCU made look like a junior high team. That is why.

Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:10 pm to
fsu didnt deserve to be in, they sucked shite all year. undefeated blah blah blah, all we heard in 2011 was the two best teams in the country should play. well in 2014 the 4 best should

marshall was a wku game away from finishing the season undefeated and didnt even sniff the playoff committees top 25 prior to losing and it looks like they were right

if youre gonna eye-ball test marshall, eye-ball test fsu
This post was edited on 1/3/15 at 1:11 pm
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
16814 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:11 pm to
Holy shite this hurts to read
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:11 pm to
Thats called the benefit of the doubt. I doubt this will continue...
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