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re: Derrick Henry is one of the most disrespected CFB players ever
Posted on 4/9/20 at 11:30 am to 3down10
Posted on 4/9/20 at 11:30 am to 3down10
College Career Stats
Fournette:
Att-616
Yds-3830
Avg-6.2
Rec-41
Yds-526
Henry:
Att-602
Yds-3591
Avg-6.0
Rec-17
Yds-285
Case Closed!
Fournette:
Att-616
Yds-3830
Avg-6.2
Rec-41
Yds-526
Henry:
Att-602
Yds-3591
Avg-6.0
Rec-17
Yds-285
quote:
Are you trying to make a case that Fournette is better than Henry?
Case Closed!
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 11:32 am to BlackCloud
quote:
Case Closed!
19 carries for 31 rushing yards. 14 different Crimson Tide players were in on a tackle of the fournette including 10 solo stops.
But hey, he really tore it up against the shitty teams.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 11:57 am to 3down10
Averaged almost a yard more a carry
Your boy got 95 more carries and had o OT 209 more yards.
He's a best player best team Heisman winner. I don't think he was the best player in the country. Just another big back at Alabama that was given an ENORMOUS workload.
NOt to say he wasn't good, but I can name you 30 backs that woudl have more yards if you gave them 395 carries behind that OLine.
Your boy got 95 more carries and had o OT 209 more yards.
He's a best player best team Heisman winner. I don't think he was the best player in the country. Just another big back at Alabama that was given an ENORMOUS workload.
NOt to say he wasn't good, but I can name you 30 backs that woudl have more yards if you gave them 395 carries behind that OLine.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:01 pm to RollTide1987
I dont think anyone would trade LSU 2015 passing game for Alabama's
Or our offense.
Or our offense.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:07 pm to 3down10
quote:Ahhhhh....the game where Saybun had 12 guys swarming him EVERY play.
19 carries for 31 rushing yards.
But hey, he really tore it up against the shitty teams.
Even with that game LF still had a higher YPC Avg(5.8) than DH(5.7) in SEC play that year.
Like I said...Case Closed.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:11 pm to 3down10
quote:
19 carries for 31 rushing yards. 14 different Crimson Tide players were in on a tackle of the fournette including 10 solo stops.
But hey, he really tore it up against the shitty teams.
Alabama's defense was pretty fricking good that year.
Especially against the run.
Even with that game he averaged almost a whoel yard more per carry.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:11 pm to BlackCloud
Fournette choked in big games when his team needed him the most. Henry rose to the occasion. That's the difference between the two.
Henry also almost single-handily willed his team to the AFC Championship Game this past season.
Henry also almost single-handily willed his team to the AFC Championship Game this past season.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:12 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
Averaged almost a yard more a carry
Your boy got 95 more carries and had o OT 209 more yards.
He's a best player best team Heisman winner. I don't think he was the best player in the country. Just another big back at Alabama that was given an ENORMOUS workload.
NOt to say he wasn't good, but I can name you 30 backs that woudl have more yards if you gave them 395 carries behind that OLine.
@ anyone who thinks fourskin is better than Henry. Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:14 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
Alabama's defense was pretty fricking good that year.
Especially against the run.
Even with that game he averaged almost a whoel yard more per carry.
Padded his stats against bad defenses, sucked against good defenses and in the big games that mattered most.
And LSU fans sure as hell didn't think Alabama would stop him before the game.
1.6 ypc.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:27 pm to 3down10
quote:
Padded his stats against bad defenses, sucked against good defenses and in the big games that mattered most.
Nah padding stats would be giving him 46 carries against Auburn's 80th ranked rushing defense.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:30 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:
Hawgnsincebirth55
Also I never understood why Henry didn’t get way more touched his sophomore and freshman seasons.
Honestly, most of that is on Saban. He traditionally tries to limit RB touches in general because it is such a brutal position - there is very much a limited lifespan for most running backs in the NFL and you don't want to wear them out prematurely. And, he generally promotes on merit but like to play more experienced players. Furthermore, one of Henry's problems early was blocking, but he got better at it.
IMHO I think it took Saban a couple of years to realize that Henry is a bit of a freak along those production lines. He usually gets stronger as the games go along. He really does excel when he gets 25-30 touches minimum - and out of those touches, you can almost always count on 15-18 of them being 2-4 yards. Another 3-5 of them will be losses behind the line of scrimmage with low tackles due to his center of gravity being high. And then there's the 2-3 runs that go for 50+ yards, for a total output of 150 yards or more for the game.
Bama fans have seen this time and time again, and now Tennessee Titans fans are seeing it too as the Titans coaching staff has started realizing the same thing.
JMHO.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:33 pm to BlackCloud
quote:
BlackCloud
Derrick Henry is one of the most disrespected CFB players ever
College Career Stats
Fournette:
Att-616
Yds-3830
Avg-6.2
Rec-41
Yds-526
Henry:
Att-602
Yds-3591
Avg-6.0
Rec-17
Yds-285
quote:
Are you trying to make a case that Fournette is better than Henry?
Case Closed!
Now post how many games they appeared in. Just curious.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:34 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Keep moving the goalpost.
Fournette choked in big games when his team needed him the most. Henry rose to the occasion. That's the difference between the two.
First the gumps say are you really trying to make a case that LF is better......
Then I posted career stats and then they say what about 19car for 31yds.......
Then I posted stats showing LF still had a better YPC Avg in SEC play even with that game........
Then you say....WhAt aBOuT bIG GAmES.......
It's this simple, LF had a better career if you look at his production in an offense that was laughed at for years for being one-dimensional and outdated.
Why do you think LF got drafted 4th overall coming off an injury-plagued junior season and DH got drafted 45th after winning the Heisman?
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:45 pm to BlackCloud
quote:
Why do you think LF got drafted 4th overall coming off an injury-plagued junior season and DH got drafted 45th after winning the Heisman?
Jaguars are fricking retarded, like LSU fans
Passed on DH twice and took 4net at #4 overall the next year 
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:46 pm to iglass
quote:
Now post how many games they appeared in. Just curious.
Henry appeared in 38 games
Fournette 32 games
YIKES
that didn't go as expected did it?
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:38 pm to BlackCloud
quote:
Why do you think LF got drafted 4th overall coming off an injury-plagued junior season and DH got drafted 45th after winning the Heisman?
That was believing in the hype! Never, ever should Fournette had been drafted in the 1rst rd. Probably, closer to a late 2nd day pick. Being honest, when his #'s and his team's goals were vanquished after losing to Bama his jr. year, the kid just quit! Scroll back and the year before he wouldn't stay on the bench whether he had a slight injury or more. Not a prime prospect in my mind and the Jaguars have proven they don't have a clue how to evaluate players. TENNESSEE TITANS will go down in history for having stole the best player in the draft as the first pick of the second rd. You see, some teams know what a draft is for. Another Ex; Many teams passed on K. Alexander of LSU but the Niners found a diamond who helped solidify their team at a bargain. Guys like T.Lewis and A. Jennings may slip
out of the 1rst rd but the teams that find them will be getting a top 5-10 type of caliber players for a song! Meanwhile, Someone like P.Queen of LSU who many Tiger fans have pegged as 1rst rd material, will probably be sorely disappointed whenever he's drafted because he doesn't have 1rst or 2nd day star power. But, if a team gambles, believes the hype, good for queen! Though, the Jaguars or somebody else will have completely missed the mark
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:44 pm to BlackCloud
quote:
Keep moving the goalpost.
Moving what goalpost? This is a thread about Derrick Henry.
quote:
Why do you think LF got drafted 4th overall coming off an injury-plagued junior season and DH got drafted 45th after winning the Heisman?
Why did Tebow and Manziel get drafted in the 1st round?
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:46 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
Henry appeared in 38 games
Fournette 32 games
YIKES
that didn't go as expected did it?
It went the way I expected it, except I thought it was only going to be 1 year.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:59 pm to 3down10
I think that this thread proves the OP right
Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:36 pm to Todd Greene
quote:
Todd Greene
quote:
That was believing in the hype! Never, ever should Fournette had been drafted in the 1rst rd.
I actually tried to read the rest of that mindless drivel, and I got about half way through before I "threw in the towel."
This is not complicated (even for a gump). Take a gander at these stats......
College Career Stats
L. Fournette: Yds-3830 Avg-6.2
The top RB's from bama with at least 500Att:
D. Henry: Yds-3591 Avg-6.0
S. Alexander: Yds-3569 Avg-4.9
B. Humphrey: Yds-3420 Avg-5.6
K. Darby: Yds-3324 Avg-4.7
T.J.: Yeldon: Yds-3322 Avg-5.8
M. Ingram: Yds-3261 Avg-5.7
T. Richardson: Yds-3130 Avg-5.8
As you can see, LF had more yards rushing with a higher YPC Avg than every RB from bama since 1892 with at least 500Att.
So again, it wasn't "hype" that got him drafted 4th overall, it was production.
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