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re: Dennis Dodd- Big Ten expected to approve Oct. 17th start
Posted on 9/13/20 at 12:55 pm to beauchristopher
Posted on 9/13/20 at 12:55 pm to beauchristopher
It didn't help Warren's case when schools started dropping non revenue sports like a hot potato. There's a lot of angry mama's and daddy's and athletes threatening lawsuits and such. The B1G saw their prominence in collegiate athletics circling the drain. Now they are backpedaling harder than a DB trying to cover Jaylen Waddle. As for the PAC12, you can stick a fork in them, they are done as a P5 conference. Go ahead and pencil in the AAC as their replacement if one is needed. More likely just going to be the Power 4 going forward. Bunch of idiots and Larry Scott pissed away their place in the sports world.
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Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:06 pm to phil4bama
Specifically, they sought advice from the SEC medical support about how they were monitoring for the heart issue. That removed the public excuse the Big 10 used to halt play and gave them room to justify it. I heard a report some schools would still sit the season out.
This post was edited on 9/13/20 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:16 pm to beauchristopher
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So no BYE weeks?
I am genuinely asking what the schedule would look like.
I definitely don't want the playoff waiting on them because of such a late start.
I'm really not sure and no one knows yet. There has been some discussion about doing 8 games on the schedule then doing a B1G CG and the teams who don't make the B1GCG play a 9th game based on some sort of ranking on that Saturday as well. That would allow for all teams in the conference to have 9 games minimum.
I don't think it's crazy to play 10 in a row. The hardest part is going to be what happens if 3 of your starting DBs are in quarantine for partying. This gives the conference WAY less room for moving games if necessary
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:17 pm to diddlydawg7
What do you think the Big 10 fans were thinking when they were watching ND play in the middle of Big 10 country?
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:17 pm to diddlydawg7
They thought the other conferences would follow their lead and shut it down.
They got bitch slapped and know they’ll never recover if they don’t play.
They got bitch slapped and know they’ll never recover if they don’t play.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 2:10 pm to PorkSammich
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They thought the other conferences would follow their lead and shut it down.
In a nutshell - yes. You've summarized it quite well.
Kevin Warren is the cat that went on record with a goal of "swinging the next election" when he got the gig as Big Ten Commissioner. He is a political animal.
Say what you will about the decision - but his decision was made with his view of politics in mind. He said so in previous statements. He thought he could use the Big 10 to press an agenda that had very little to do with the best interests of the Big 10.
His knowledge of history is quite telling. The last time the Big 10 sided with the NCAA - the only other conference that went along was the PAC 8. Every other major conference walked off and formed the CFA - which broke the NCAA monopoly on football TV contracts.
History may not repeat. But it certainly rhymes. Nebraska - shoulda' done your homework. Next time, look before you leap.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 2:17 pm to Buckeye06
Starting on October 17 would allow them to play 10 games if they decided to forego a championship game game--otherwise, they'd be limited to 9, and that's with no open dates.
Now, I read somewhere that 4 schools were likely not to play even if the conference did vote to do so (local politics overriding conference decision). If that were to be the case, and you only had 10 Big 10 teams competing, you could play a 9 game round robin and then a championship game (with no off weeks), or just play the 9 game round robin, no champsionship game, and everyone gets a bye week, if you start October 17 and finish December 19
Now, I read somewhere that 4 schools were likely not to play even if the conference did vote to do so (local politics overriding conference decision). If that were to be the case, and you only had 10 Big 10 teams competing, you could play a 9 game round robin and then a championship game (with no off weeks), or just play the 9 game round robin, no champsionship game, and everyone gets a bye week, if you start October 17 and finish December 19
Posted on 9/13/20 at 2:45 pm to twk
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Starting on October 17 would allow them to play 10 games if they decided to forego a championship game game--otherwise, they'd be limited to 9, and that's with no open dates.
Now, I read somewhere that 4 schools were likely not to play even if the conference did vote to do so (local politics overriding conference decision). If that were to be the case, and you only had 10 Big 10 teams competing, you could play a 9 game round robin and then a championship game (with no off weeks), or just play the 9 game round robin, no champsionship game, and everyone gets a bye week, if you start October 17 and finish December 19
LSU Clemson was 13 January, which is the latest the CFP Championship game has been played. They could have the semi finals on January 6, and allow the Big 10 to play its Conference title game around 27/28 December if they want. I don't think anyone in the other leagues would have an issue with that.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 2:48 pm to Buckeye06
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I'm really not sure and no one knows yet. There has been some discussion about doing 8 games on the schedule then doing a B1G CG and the teams who don't make the B1GCG play a 9th game based on some sort of ranking on that Saturday as well. That would allow for all teams in the conference to have 9 games minimum.
I don't think it's crazy to play 10 in a row. The hardest part is going to be what happens if 3 of your starting DBs are in quarantine for partying. This gives the conference WAY less room for moving games if necessary
I for one welcome the Big 10 back, you all are top to bottom the clear 2nd best league and outside the major Metro Areas lie Chicago, Minneapolis, Cleveland, Milwaukee, etc , where woke Secular White Liberals live, the Midwest folks are in many ways very similar to folks in the SEC footprint.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:09 am to JKChesterton
quote:Maybe, maybe not. It depends on whether or not fans are allowed for the bowl games. If they are, then it's tough to make bowl selections with a week's notice. It's hard to say whether fan attendance will be a priority for bowls--in normal circumstances, it would, but not as much for the CFP bowls as the lesser bowls, where ticket revenue makes a much larger percentage of gross revenue for the bowls.
LSU Clemson was 13 January, which is the latest the CFP Championship game has been played. They could have the semi finals on January 6, and allow the Big 10 to play its Conference title game around 27/28 December if they want. I don't think anyone in the other leagues would have an issue with that.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:35 am to ipodking
quote:There's been enormous change. Other conferences are playing while the B1G sits and watches.
Can’t wait to see the press conference for this. Nothing has changed between when they cancelled and now.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:43 am to RT1941
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I’m curious to know what changed? What happened with Covid that changed their decision to play in January?
Well, obviously they discovered a cure for myocarditis.
Very impressive job Big 10!!!
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 10:44 am
Posted on 9/14/20 at 11:22 am to Irons Puppet
High schools and pro teams all around them playing. They must be feeling the heat big time.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 11:44 am to phil4bama
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Bunch of idiots and Larry Scott pissed away their place in the sports world.
There isn't a lot Larry Scott can do when 3 states containing 8 of the 12 programs aren't allowing high school and college sports.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 12:49 pm to Irons Puppet
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What do you think the Big 10 fans were thinking when they were watching ND play in the middle of Big 10 country?
I thought all along and posted in other threads that Notre Dame joining with the ACC and playing a full schedule would be a major force in helping pull this whole thing off. It wasn't just about the SEC, ACC, and Big 12.
The first time I'd ever had a positive thought about Notre Dame football.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 12:51 pm to RT1941
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I’m curious to know what changed? What happened with Covid that changed their decision to play in January?
The reasons they gave for postponing the season were proven to be bullshite.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:07 pm to JakeFromStateFarm
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The reasons they gave for postponing the season were proven to be bullshite.
The Big 10 - more than any other conference - is populated by presidents that are risk averse. I don't say this with any inside knowledge, of course. I just watch what they do, and always have done.
So when Kevin Warren told them in no uncertain terms that they needed to cancel football before every other conference cancelled ... they did. For obvious reasons I'm not going to call out here. But it's obvious. Read his interviews at places like Yahoo. Or google Kevin Warren swing election.
Now ? They've trying to thread the needle. They'll delay this vote to the bitter end - it would require taking a stand. That's not what these particular presidents do. They're putting this off as long as possible - and, honestly - hoping for an outbreak.
How ironic. Because they're in this mess because they let a politically motivated commissioner bully them into making a decision way too soon.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:21 pm to JKChesterton
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LSU Clemson was 13 January, which is the latest the CFP Championship game has been played. They could have the semi finals on January 6, and allow the Big 10 to play its Conference title game around 27/28 December if they want. I don't think anyone in the other leagues would have an issue with that.
The hell they won't. Remember...a spot taken by Ohio State means someone else from one of those conferences gets left out. The CFP has already set the dates for the release of the rankings on Dec. 20, the semifinals on Jan. 1, and the championship on Jan. 11. The CFP will tell a partial B1G group to pound sand before they change those dates again.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:24 pm to ScoggDog
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The reasons they gave for postponing the season were proven to be bullshite.
The Big 10 - more than any other conference - is populated by presidents that are risk averse.
They're mostly in closely contested battleground states with Democratic governors for whom the decision to play football will mean an admission that Trump was right on that topic.
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:32 pm to Buckeye06
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Well I hate to tell you but 0% chance that happens. Additionally, October 17 gives the conference 10 weeks before the CFP selection on 12/20. So the winner of the B1G should be 10-0 or 9-1 and a conference champ
So what changed to make it alright to play?
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