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Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:29 am to NYCAuburn
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:29 am to NYCAuburn
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No they wouldnt because the result of the play is clock stoppage. They do not do the run off in that case
The NFL does not have a temporary clock stoppage like college does for a 1st down, so there isn't a real comparative.
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:29 am to East Coast Band
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What should have happened is the ref make his announcement, then immediately blow the whistle in play.
What you wished would happened...
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:29 am to SummerOfGeorge
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The NFL does not have a temporary clock stoppage like college does for a 1st down, so there isn't a real comparative.
agreed, but the word or the rule says it so.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:31 am to Eighteen
I've said the same thing in multiple posts.
Three separate events...the knee hits, one official blows the whistle and waves his arms, and a second official flips the switch to stop the clock. These three separate events NEVER happen at exactly the same time. There will ALWAYS be a 0.3-1.0 second difference just because of the human reaction time. Putting one second back on for that play alone is stupid when there are perhaps as many as 60 seconds that bleed off cumulatively during the course of a 60 minute game. Time should only be put back on when the clock operator was clearly slow stopping the clock...at least 2 seconds or more...or if the officials make a clear error. Neither happened on Saturday.
Three separate events...the knee hits, one official blows the whistle and waves his arms, and a second official flips the switch to stop the clock. These three separate events NEVER happen at exactly the same time. There will ALWAYS be a 0.3-1.0 second difference just because of the human reaction time. Putting one second back on for that play alone is stupid when there are perhaps as many as 60 seconds that bleed off cumulatively during the course of a 60 minute game. Time should only be put back on when the clock operator was clearly slow stopping the clock...at least 2 seconds or more...or if the officials make a clear error. Neither happened on Saturday.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:33 am to Eighteen
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The NFL fixed this issue with the rule that a clock runoff happens on a review stoppage of play so that a team doesn't get to benefit from the clock being stopped
So you want to reward shitty officiating by punishing the team with the ball?
Seems legit
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:34 am to skrayper
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And in the NCAA the clock stops for first downs...
Until the chains are set. They don't wait for the offense to do whatever it pleases.
If AU had gotten off a hail mary and scored, then no big deal. It is what it is.
The replay gave AU a free shot at a FG, which wasn't possible without the replay.
Exactly.
No, the clock doesn't stop after first downs in the NFL, but the intent is still the same...you don't create an unfair advantage for one team in such a situation. Auburn never would have gotten a FG off. They never would have gotten the FG unit in place in time unless the chain crew literally tripped all over themselves like the Three Stooges.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:34 am to MrLarson
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So you want to reward shitty officiating by punishing the team with the ball?
Seems legit
It's not "punishing" a team at all
It's not allowing a team to take advantage of an officiating error
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 11:36 am
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:35 am to BamaGradinTn
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There will ALWAYS be a 0.3-1.0 second difference just because of the human reaction time.
You do realize instant replay is implemented to eliminate the human element, correct?
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:35 am to MrLarson
Defenses get the benefit from replay all the time also. People act like this only benefits the offense. If you have replay, there will be a stoppage that allows both sides to prepare for the next down. Auburn benefited here, but there’s plenty of replays that benefit the defense.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:36 am to MrLarson
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So you want to reward shitty officiating by punishing the team with the ball?
Seems legit
This is the stupidest comment anyone has made yet about this topic. How ion the ever-loving frick would Auburn have been punished if the clock had stopped with one second left?
You literally have to be the stupidest motherfricker on this board if you believe this.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:36 am to NYCAuburn
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What you wished would happened.
So, if the Auburn player was tackled with 2 or 3 seconds left, you know well enough, no way a FG could be attempted.
So, why should an official call of 1 second left the team be allowed to?
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:36 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:But an NFL style run off doesn't make sense. When would you implement it? Who is to say the team can't hustle to the line and snap the ball? I agree it is a quirk in the rules where first down temporary stoppage and review make for an odd result. It may need to be addressed, but I don't think a run off works.
It doesn't stop for 5 minutes
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:36 am to baldona
It's also interesting how the Auburn clock operator starts a 1 second snap when it's LSU under center on the last play of the game vs Auburn under center on the last play of a half
...but that's none of my business
...but that's none of my business
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 11:37 am
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:37 am to baldona
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If you have replay, there will be a stoppage that allows both sides to prepare for the next down.
This is the second stupidest comment on the topic. Why the frick does the defense have to prepare when the offense never would even get a play off?
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:38 am to Rhymenoceros
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You do realize instant replay is implemented to eliminate the human element, correct?
I think his point is that it seems inconsistent to eliminate the human error in a spot like that while ignoring it the other 37 times it happens over the course of a game.
In general re: sports replays I agree (baseball is the worst). It was intended to be used to fix obvious errors and now we use it to fix tiny things that a human could never be expected to see in real time, but only in specific end of play type situations.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:38 am to BamaGradinTn
quote:Offenses get plays off in college all of the time with 1 second left after a first down. The only issue is that running the field goal unit into the field and being ready when the chains get set is unlikely.
Why the frick does the defense have to prepare when the offense never would even get a play off?
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:38 am to Eighteen
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It's not "punishing" a team at all
It is punishing a team
Let's say there were 9 seconds left. Plenty of time to run a play but using your logic the game is over because the refs fricked up.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:39 am to PearlJam
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But an NFL style run off doesn't make sense. When would you implement it? Who is to say the team can't hustle to the line and snap the ball? I agree it is a quirk in the rules where first down temporary stoppage and review make for an odd result. It may need to be addressed, but I don't think a run off works.
Yea - like I said earlier, I'm not sure this is something that (a) happens enough or (b) has a solution that doesn't also cause other issues. I think maybe you make the "run off" some sort of smaller number like 3-5 seconds maybe, but I'm sure there are counter arguments to that too.
It was just a shitty break. It happens.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 11:40 am
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:40 am to Rhymenoceros
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There will ALWAYS be a 0.3-1.0 second difference just because of the human reaction time.
You do realize instant replay is implemented to eliminate the human element, correct?
This was obviously waaaaayyyyyy over your head. No surprise there. The point is that you don't have 100 other plays reviewed during the course of a 60 minute football game to add one second, when clearly you could. The last play of the half should be treated no differently than 100 others. Like I said, anyone who has watched college football for 15 minutes...
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:41 am to Eighteen
Thanks for providing a space for more melt
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