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Posted on 7/10/22 at 11:01 am to Lonnie Utah
Posted on 7/10/22 at 11:01 am to Lonnie Utah
Clemson lives rent free in your head...make an appt with your psychiatrist, you need a mental heath checkup.
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Posted on 7/10/22 at 11:25 am to Tillman
I guess I need to be more clear. The way things are currently going, it is going to be the Big 10 or SEC and then everyone else without a seat at the grown-ups table. If teams from the west coast are joining the Big 10 and OU and Texas have already petitioned to join SEC and that’s been accepted, things are already in motion. Y’all can go wherever you want. But you’re going somewhere and it’s going to get tougher for Clemson to remain relevant. You’re not a longtime national brand and never will be. Just the same as us. Also, I’m not convinced Dabo is very smart. He’s proven savvy enough to cheat his way to where he is, but he doesn’t come off as smart.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 11:39 am to JeffLebowski
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guess I need to be more clear. The way things are currently going, it is going to be the Big 10 or SEC and then everyone else without a seat at the grown-ups table. If teams from the west coast are joining the Big 10 and OU and Texas have already petitioned to join SEC and that’s been accepted, things are already in motion. Y’all can go wherever you want. But you’re going somewhere and it’s going to get tougher for Clemson to remain relevant. You’re not a longtime national brand and never will be. Just the same as us. Also, I’m not convinced Dabo is very smart. He’s proven savvy enough to cheat his way to where he is, but he doesn’t come off as smart.
Nobody has any idea of where this is headed. The assertion that programs will have to be in the SEC or Big 10 to be relevant is not likely to be true especially if the playoff is expanded. If the Big 10 and SEC have a monopoly on playoff spots, the other colleges would just form their own league. The winner of the superconference playoff wouldn't be able to say they were the best team in the nation at that point. Just the winner of their rigged system designed to exclude the majority of teams.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 11:48 am
Posted on 7/10/22 at 11:42 am to Tillman
Yes. A league of mostly, if not all, non-premier programs that will diminish the quality of the conference to a point of making it the equivalent of a non-power 5.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 11:43 am to JeffLebowski
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Yes. A league of mostly, if not all, non-premier programs that will diminish the quality of the conference to a point of making it the equivalent of a non-power 5.
so you believe the ACC would not even get 1 team into the playoffs to include an expanded playoff?
i believe that could lead to a big lost of interest nationally for the sport.
the idea that people in the northeast and Carolinas and northwest and southwest are going to watch a league that excludes most of their colleges doesn't seem probable.
people won't understand why colleges who haven't had much success in football like Arkansas and South Carolina are in this elite conference with access to the playoffs but similar colleges like NC State are locked out.
The popularity of March Madness is based on it being an equal opportunity event. You and others seem to want to choke out opportunity in football.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 11:53 am
Posted on 7/10/22 at 3:34 pm to Tillman
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can promise you Saban doesn't want Texas, Oklahoma, Clemson, FSU etc in the SEC.
In case you have forgotten, the last time Saban and Bama played FSU, they broke their QB and their team. FSU has never recovered. Be careful what you wish for.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 4:59 pm to Tillman
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I'm not convinced SEC is going to add more programs.
If we do it needs to be schools that bring big business with them. Clempson brings nothing to the table in that regards. Your football program is the only positive your school has yet it's not a national brand in the way of other states cheering for you as most hate you and the fake preacher. Your support area is small and the rest of your Olympic sports programs are horrible.
If we do add more teams I would like NC State and Virginia Tech. Two new states and both schools have a SEC feel to them.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 5:07 pm to SOSFAN
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If we do it needs to be schools that bring big business with them. Clempson brings nothing to the table in that regards. Your football program is the only positive your school has yet it's not a national brand in the way of other states cheering for you as most hate you and the fake preacher. Your support area is small and the rest of your Olympic sports programs are horrible. If we do add more teams I would like NC State and Virginia Tech. Two new states and both schools have a SEC feel to them.
Others would disagree with you.
Which college football programs bring in the most TV viewers?
Posted on 7/10/22 at 8:49 pm to SOSFAN
Clemson has won 3 titles in men's soccer and basically goes to the tournament every season.
Clemson baseball is in the top 10 most winning programs of all time.
Basketball has been better than SC for the last 50 years or so.
Clemson baseball is in the top 10 most winning programs of all time.
Basketball has been better than SC for the last 50 years or so.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 7/10/22 at 8:51 pm to phil4bama
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In case you have forgotten, the last time Saban and Bama played FSU, they broke their QB and their team. FSU has never recovered. Be careful what you wish for.
think the issue was FSU's Oline that ACC teams were taking advantage of as well
FSU has proven that teams need to at least be average on the O-line to win consistently in the ACC.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 7/11/22 at 8:18 am to Tillman
>soccers not gonna get you into the SEC, good for hanging out with the UVAs, UNCs and Syracuses of the world tho
>all those wins and zero national championships, got smacked by the 2002/2010 Gamecocks squads in Omaha
> SC basketballs fluke final four > any Clemson basketball achievement ever, not even counting USC’s national prominence from 1968-1975 which ALSO eclipses clemsons minuscule basketball history.
>all those wins and zero national championships, got smacked by the 2002/2010 Gamecocks squads in Omaha
> SC basketballs fluke final four > any Clemson basketball achievement ever, not even counting USC’s national prominence from 1968-1975 which ALSO eclipses clemsons minuscule basketball history.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 8:35 am to Lonnie Utah
I don’t really care about y’all’s little rivalry.
I just came here to tell Clemson fans that they should be scared of the Ed orgeron situation. Dave Aranda left and lsu has been .500 since.
Dabo is kinda like o , he’s the ceo type and now he lost his long time d coordinator .
Very very similar situations . It may not be as obvious as it was for lsu though. Clemsons schedule kinda keeps things from looking as bad as they are.
Even our last two teams would have went 8-4 in the acc . If Dabo starts going 8-4 in the acc then Clemson will know that he’s not gonna get them back to the playoffs again.
I’ll tell y’all what , that dc search would have made me irate if I was a Clemson fan . All of Dabos, “we will hire within the program “, bullshite would piss me off.
Imo, it’s a red flag and shows his paranoia.
This years pivotal for Clemsons future
I just came here to tell Clemson fans that they should be scared of the Ed orgeron situation. Dave Aranda left and lsu has been .500 since.
Dabo is kinda like o , he’s the ceo type and now he lost his long time d coordinator .
Very very similar situations . It may not be as obvious as it was for lsu though. Clemsons schedule kinda keeps things from looking as bad as they are.
Even our last two teams would have went 8-4 in the acc . If Dabo starts going 8-4 in the acc then Clemson will know that he’s not gonna get them back to the playoffs again.
I’ll tell y’all what , that dc search would have made me irate if I was a Clemson fan . All of Dabos, “we will hire within the program “, bullshite would piss me off.
Imo, it’s a red flag and shows his paranoia.
This years pivotal for Clemsons future
This post was edited on 7/11/22 at 8:38 am
Posted on 7/11/22 at 9:00 am to Freon
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>soccers not gonna get you into the SEC, good for hanging out with the UVAs, UNCs and Syracuses of the world tho >all those wins and zero national championships, got smacked by the 2002/2010 Gamecocks squads in Omaha > SC basketballs fluke final four > any Clemson basketball achievement ever, not even counting USC’s national prominence from 1968-1975 which ALSO eclipses clemsons minuscule basketball history.
What was this national prominence from 68-75? One ACC tournament championship and three sweet sixteen appearances? I mean that's nice and all, but that's a eight-year period half a century ago.
Hell, Clemson has had more Men's basketball NCAA tournament appearances and aren't thought of as a BB school.
Clemson just started a women's softball program in 2020 and made the NCAA tourney both years (none during COVID) including a super regional this year. ALso, if I'm not mistaken, they haven't lost to South Carolina.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 9:03 am to Tigerpride18
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I don’t really care about y’all’s little rivalry.
I just came here to tell Clemson fans that they should be scared of the Ed orgeron situation. Dave Aranda left and lsu has been .500 since.
Dabo is kinda like o , he’s the ceo type and now he lost his long time d coordinator .
Very very similar situations . It may not be as obvious as it was for lsu though. Clemsons schedule kinda keeps things from looking as bad as they are.
Even our last two teams would have went 8-4 in the acc . If Dabo starts going 8-4 in the acc then Clemson will know that he’s not gonna get them back to the playoffs again.
I’ll tell y’all what , that dc search would have made me irate if I was a Clemson fan . All of Dabos, “we will hire within the program “, bull shite would piss me off.
Imo, it’s a red flag and shows his paranoia.
This years pivotal for Clemsons future
Posted on 7/11/22 at 11:17 am to Tillman
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Joining the SEC is a panic move and/or greed move, not strategic. If the goal is to make the playoffs and win natties, it doesn't seem obvious that joining a conference stacking scheme is the best choice.
I believe there will be an anti-trust tort that goes to the Supreme Court if access to the playoffs is essentially limited to the new SEC and BIg 10.
i can promise you Saban doesn't want Texas, Oklahoma, Clemson, FSU etc in the SEC.
It's not just the access, it's the money. The SEC won't create a playoff that's just limited to the SEC and the Big 10. All that would do would drive Notre Dame to the Big 10, which isn't in the SEC's interests.
Even if Clemson has a way to get there, it's not going to get there if SEC and Big 10 schools have $125 million to work with and Clemson has $40 million. It won't work.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 1:12 pm to Lonnie Utah
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