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Posted on 9/9/18 at 2:11 pm to RollDawgRoll
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I wonder if he’s talking about the on-side kick in championship game that Bama caught. Perfectly executed play, but Dabo had a conniption fit on the side line. I was embarrassed for him.
That onside kick in the Championship game is the most embarrassing moment in recent Bama history. The fact that Saban knew his vaunted defense couldn’t stop Clemson’s offense is exhibit A that sometimes a hot QB can make even the best defenses look vulnerable. That IMHO is what happened to Clemson’s D last night. Hot QB vs gassed defense in the fourth quarter.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 2:44 pm to ClemsonRules
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That onside kick in the Championship game is the most embarrassing moment in recent Bama history.
Trying to win the NCG is embarrassing? Tater logic, y'all.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 3:11 pm to Ag Zwin
Yes. A fumble out of your own endzone is a safety, happens most often when a bad snap on a punt goes out the endzone, or a blocked punt out the endzone.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 3:18 pm to ClemsonRules
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That onside kick in the Championship game is the most embarrassing moment in recent Bama history.
I've always wondered, does it hurt being this stupid.
Does smoke come out of your ears when you think really, really hard?
If pulling a smart play out of your pocket to catch the other team off guard and results in winning a national championship is embarrassing, then color me embarrassed all damn day.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 3:19 pm to pvilleguru
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Did you not take algebra?
It’s actually trigonometry... the Clemson defender hits the ball as the ATM guy has the ball on the sideline hash at the 3 yard line. He hits him almost 90 degrees from the sideline. The ball bounces off the ATM guys left hand, which is at the 2.5 yard line and over/ on the OOB line/ sideline. The ball lands approx 8 yard past the goal line and 6 yards from the side line. Since the ball started its forward motion off his left hand, which is over the sideline and continued away from the side line, the math tells us it was impossible for the ball to have gone over the goal line whilst in bounds.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 3:20 pm to Barstools
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My favorite part of this whole thing is the people saying the rule is stupid. If the offense fumbles the ball out of the back of their own endzone should they get it back at the 1? Hello no. The rule is fine, you cannot fumble it through the endzone. Either one. If the ball goes out of bounds in the endzone after a fumble is played as of the defense recovered the ball. Should I be able to fumble the ball from the 5 out of the endzone and get it at the 1?
The issue is that there needs to be enough cameras to get the calls right. There should be 2 going town either side of the goal line and the same on each sideline.
You're doing a very bad job of comparing two very differrent situations. And I've never seen anyone say they think the offense should keep possession if they fumble the ball out of bounds (side or back) in their own end zone. Smh. By rule, if you fumble in your own endzone and recover the ball in the endzone or it goes out of bounds (side or back) it's ruled down in the endzone. So it's a safety. Possession doesn't default to the defense -- which is consistent with a fumble out of bounds on the field. The defense is only awarded possession and a TD if they recover it in the endzone. That all makes sense.
It does not make sense to give possesion to the defense if the offense fumbles the ball into the defense's end zone and it then goes out of bounds (side or back) in the endzone. The ball should be placed at the spot of the fumble and the offense should retain possession. That would be much more consistent with the rule for a ball being fumbled out of bounds outside of the endzone. The defense should not be awarded possession unless the fumble is recovered in bounds on the field or in an endzone. There is no logical justification whatsoever for awarding the defense an unearned touchback possession at the 20 yardline. It is a VERY stupid rule.
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 9/9/18 at 5:09 pm to BamaChick
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If pulling a smart play out of your pocket to catch the other team off guard and results in winning a national championship is embarrassing, then color me embarrassed all damn day.
Love how you use the term “smart play” to describe a “trick play”. Not denying it was a gusty call but When was last time Bama had I use a trick play to win. Bottom line: B etter teams don’t need trick plays to win.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 5:15 pm to ClemsonRules
quote:You must've gone to the restroom when Renfrow threw a pass to Bryant last night. Beautiful pass by the way!
Love how you use the term “smart play” to describe a “trick play”. Not denying it was a gusty call but When was last time Bama had I use a trick play to win. Bottom line: B etter teams don’t need trick plays to win
Posted on 9/9/18 at 5:18 pm to ClemsonRules
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That onside kick in the Championship game is the most embarrassing moment in recent Bama history.
How about not being able to score one...ONE...touchdown. You didn't even come close. How does that feel?
Posted on 9/9/18 at 5:19 pm to Bench McElroy
Bigger play was the no call P.I.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 5:21 pm to Barstools
quote:do you not understand the rulings on fumbles? when you fumble the ball out of bounds backwards, the ball is spotted where it goes out of bounds. when you fumble a ball backwards through your own endzone, it makes logical sense to call it a safety. however, you can not fumble a ball forward out of bounds. whenver that happens, it goes to the spot where the ball was fumbled.......unless it goes out of the defenses endzone for no logical reason
My favorite part of this whole thing is the people saying the rule is stupid. If the offense fumbles the ball out of the back of their own endzone should they get it back at the 1? Hello no.
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 9/9/18 at 5:48 pm to Bench McElroy
Crappy rule, but
"hey, at the end of the day, if the kid hangs on to the ball, you ain't got a problem."
Which is exactly right.
"hey, at the end of the day, if the kid hangs on to the ball, you ain't got a problem."
Which is exactly right.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 5:57 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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but ultimately it didn't change the outcome that much
Zero way to know that.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:20 am to WestCoastAg
I don't think that you understand the rules of fumbles. Fumbles that go out of the sidelines revert to the offense. Fumbles that go out of the endzone revert to the defense (safety or touchback). It's a pretty simple concept. Try to keep up.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 2:51 am
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:32 am to PEPE
The fumble through the endzone being a touchback is dumb. In any other part of the field, if the ball is fumbled forward out of the field of play it comes back to the spot of the fumble.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:34 am to Barstools
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Fumbles that go out of the endzone revert to the defense (safety or touchback)
I get the safety, but the touchback is stupid.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:39 am to harmonics
Is not "any other part of the field". It's the endzone, which is literally different from "any other part of the field". That's like saying, "as soon as a player breaks the plane with the ball the play is over. At any other yardline on the field it's still a live play. How dumb!!!1!1"
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 2:40 am
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:42 am to harmonics
So you think the defense should be penalized for causing a fumble at the goal line and the offense knocks the ball out of the end zone so the defense can't recover? You really think the offense deserves to get the ball back at the spot of the fumble? That's why the rule exists.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 3:49 am
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:42 am to Barstools
Ok sure. But you are making an exception for the forward fumble rule when it comes to the endzone.
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