re: Corso's saying UT and Oklahoma leaving Big 12 in next 5 years most likely 4 SEC

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Line Beards

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Louisville Cardinals, if it helps this picture is actually an accurate description gof their fans

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CAF

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Cardinal Athletic Fund - basically the donor arm of the Cardinals (in LSU terms think TAF)

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Jurich

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Tom Jurich = Louisville AD, basically he was a decade or two ahead of everybody else as to where college athletics were going. Love him or hate him, you have to respect his focus in moving the Line Beards up the ladder from the old Metro to the ACC.

As for Taters that is an SEC east thing

SEC east rivals
Florida = Florida State aka Free Shoes U
SC = Clemson aka Taters
Georgia = Georgia Tech aka Bumbles
Kentucky = Louisville aka Line Beards

UVA = Hoos, but I do not think that is bad slang
Duke = Dook, but mainly just during the K reign
UNCheats = Tar Heels from Dean Smith forward. While modern times may focus on the fake classes, old school purist hate him for bringing the 4 corners to college basketball (stall ball, and why we now have the shot clock).

Go back to your own whornboard you POS! Nobody in the SEC wants TU's ignorance. Clamoring for you to even become relavant again is laghable.

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I want to post this for emphasis.

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if you want to get into a pissing contest with the TAMU folks on her have at ti, but if you want to really discuss the big picture then leave that crap out of it.

What I am saying is if Texas does not form the SWC, Arkansas probably winds up in the old Missouri Valley and probably take Iowa's sport when they make the jump to the B1G. I can see Kansas / Missouri / Arkansas / Nebraska fitting together early on.

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What I am saying is if Texas does not form the SWC, Arkansas probably winds up in the old Missouri Valley and probably take Iowa's sport when they make the jump to the B1G. I can see Kansas / Missouri / Arkansas / Nebraska fitting together early on.

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I'm still baffled how you can blame Texas for Arkansas joining the Southwest Conference. Forgive me if you don't mean to blame Texas, but it sure sounds like it.

In your spiteful move, you simply traded one boss for another. That, too, will wear thin soon. Where will aggy run to then?

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I believe the other three conferences are making sure Texas does not join the SEC. That has to be worst case scenario for the other 3 for sure

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This is probably more true than not, but the problem is they do not bother to really understand the dynamics. If the B1G or PAC were smart they court TAMU as actively as they court Texas. B1G adds Kansas and Missouri as a pair early instead of trying to break the ACC and B12 at the same time. B1G egos and lots of B1G mistakes in the realignment wars.

As for the ACC and SEC, they share too much DNA to even not look after each other in the end. Does anybody really think Georgia Tech will join the B1G if they lose the donor dollars from the Georgia vs Georgia Tech sports?

Texas has painted themselves into a corner and are trying desperately to figure a way out. The Longhorn Network was supposed to be their ticket out of the Big XII to the freedom of independent status but alas, the LHN has been a disaster of Titanic proportions and ESPN wants to pull the plug. No conference is going to extend them an invite without the stipulation that the LHN goes away. Texas isn't ready to give it up yet. But Texas needs to look at Notre Dame and learn a lesson: you are just a couple of more mediocre seasons from being as irrelevant to college football as the Irish have become. The once mightiest program in the NCAA, that negotiated their own network deal, is just a relic of former glory in days gone by.

The Big XII is fading fast. Texas and Oklahoma are the only brands in the conference worth having. But Texas is a no-go for the previously mentioned reasons. Oklahoma wants and needs to come to the SEC. The only thing stopping them is their idiot president Boren who somehow thinks OU is a midwestern Harvard. If and when OU dumps Boren for a realist, the negotiations will begin.

I can see OU coming into the SEC and maybe West Virginia as the partner. Yes, the SEC covets the Carolina/Virginia area with their juicy markets, but the ACC wisely chained their conference members to the league with their grant of media rights. They can't leave. West Virginia isn't ideal but they are the biggest available option out there. Your alternative is Okie Lite who brings nothing OU doesn't bring or Kansas who isn't exactly SEC material outside of their tempting basketball program. OU comes into the west and West Virginia into the east and Missouri is moved to the west where they belong and Auburn is moved to the east to balance the league.

Those are your emotions talking.
Looking out for one's own best interest isn't spiteful; it's sensible and obvious.
I question the sanity of any university that would've handled the situation differently, had it been in our far-outgrown shoes.

So I think you may be one of the few here who actually understands the dynamic involved here with Texas and Oklahoma
If the SEC does not move then the conference is handing those two universities to another conference.
For me I say the PAC 12 would be the worst case scenario for the SEC long run and the BIG short term.
Simply for numbers.
Most PAC 12 football games are not played at 9 central or later on Saturday nights as most are played earlier in the day
This idea that has been put out that the time zone difference would hurt is from other schools inside the Big 12 because they claim that all schools in a conference should be in the same time zone

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I think you may be one of the few here who actually understands the dynamic involved here with Texas and Oklahoma

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Here is the dynamic

The smart move : In 2010 Texas and Oklahoma join the SEC

The reality : Texas saw money and Oklahoma did not have the power to get out of their own way. Boren was right on his choices of Big East schools and the Texas schools (not just Texas) turned him down. If he had gotten his way Louisville + Pittsburgh + West Virginia + ?? are in the Big 12 and the ACC is on life support. Instead the Texas schools got TCU and another cannibalized market.

Texas says no to the SEC, and TAMU says yes. Slive is looking for a partner and extends offer to Sooners. Instead of saying yes they wait to see what the Texas schools want and want to bring their little brother. As my old man used to say "time to take the cookie is when they pass the plate the first time". Sooners think they are better than that and Missouri sneaks in and takes the cookies.

As of now there is no good way out. SEC is in Texas so Texas has a greatly reduced value even if Texas fans do not believe this. As for the Sooners, Missouri now has their spot and the SEC can sit at 14 forever, heck they can even afford to see if two drop out like Georgia Tech and Tulane did. PAC is not a eyeball bonanza no matter how many folks live there and the B1G is in the dying footprint. Sure they have numbers now, but in another generation their kids will be living and working in warmer climates. Unless global warming really happens. Detroit is dead and it will never be its former self. 100 years ago Pennsylvania was the center of oil and Michigan was the center of autos, that time is gone.