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Posted on 6/28/24 at 2:22 pm to OU Guy
Saw some article that ranked the SECs '24 portal classes. It accounted for both outgoing and incoming players. sooners came in at #14 on the list. Only ahead of vandy and bama. LSU lost 20 and only signed 9 and still was mid SEC.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 2:40 pm to LSBoosie
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I’m going be honest, I’m not sure why so many people think that DeBoer will fail
None honestly think that. Fans are going to fan in this day and age. Wishcasting (instead of honest assessment) is the norm now.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 2:45 pm to bamameister
Luckily the Ohio State coaches suck so they are a non factor
Posted on 6/28/24 at 2:49 pm to LSBoosie
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I’m going be honest, I’m not sure why so many people think that DeBoer will fail
I think he will do well and is a great coach.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 3:00 pm to LSBoosie
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I’m going be honest, I’m not sure why so many people think that DeBoer will fail
The Saban Halo Effect…Nick Saban was the greatest coach of this generation…so anybody that isn’t him sucks in comparison. At least that’s what I believe the issue is for those people.
For clarity, I don’t subscribe to that logic at all. It may take a year to fully transition over, and find the few guys he needs to fit what he wants, but I figure DeBoer is going to field a damn good team.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 3:03 pm to houstonearler
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I think he will do well and is a great coach.
He's not timid and seems to be a great fit. Leaving 10 million on the table to just stay put and be his own legend at Washington didn't interest this guy. It takes a little ego and a lot of self-confidence to come to a place like ALABAMA.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 4:40 pm to John Milner
I don't know why you would count me in that group. I'm more reasonable than most of your own fanbase. However, I do think Saban was a legend and no one, and I mean, NO ONE, will ever be able to duplicate his success.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:33 pm to bamameister
yeesh. The SEC's only chance to finally pull even with Alabama was banking on DeBoer not being able to recruit, because he's a significantly better gameday coach than Saban, so the only hope was that he would do it with less talented players than Alabama usually gets.
Now that he's recruiting better than anyone in the SEC it looks like the Alabama problem won't be solved for another 15 years. He's what...only 49 years old...as Scott Bakula says in Quantum Leap, the rest of the SEC is saying "Oh boy."
Now that he's recruiting better than anyone in the SEC it looks like the Alabama problem won't be solved for another 15 years. He's what...only 49 years old...as Scott Bakula says in Quantum Leap, the rest of the SEC is saying "Oh boy."
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 6/29/24 at 6:39 am to secuniversity
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The SEC's only chance to finally pull even with Alabama was banking on DeBoer not being able to recruit, because he's a significantly better gameday coach than Saban, so the only hope was that he would do it with less talented players than Alabama usually gets.
Given that Coach DeBoer has been on the job for 5 months and On3 and 24/7 has BAMA at number 2 in the country and closing fast on Ohio State it's clear that recruits are buying what this coach and staff are selling.
Talent streaming to a school is the greatest barometer of future success. Given that BAMA's cupboard was full when Coach DeBoer took the job that promises to be a continued issue for everyone else in college football.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 7:43 am to bamameister
To me, a better indicator is who will have the highest ration in their two deep. Schools like Ohio State, Alabama and Georgia will have a lot of blue chip players that won't play much due to those high ratios, while some schools will have a lower ratio, so their younger players will be forced to play.
The younder players probably won't have as big an impact against OSU, UA and UGA because they will be going against experienced blue chippers, but against other schools they might can make an impact.
The younder players probably won't have as big an impact against OSU, UA and UGA because they will be going against experienced blue chippers, but against other schools they might can make an impact.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 8:08 am to Yokelhoma
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Remains to be seen if Venables is truly the right coach, but he definitely hasn't had an issue in recruiting talent.
Their NIL collective being one of the best in the country certainly helps, too. OU sucked (6-7) in Venables’ first year but they were able to save the 2023 class by handing out bags. They got several players in that class that they really had no business getting with the season they had.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 8:10 am to narddogg81
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Luckily the Ohio State coaches suck so they are a non factor
Put up or shut up time for Day. His daddy Harbaugh is no longer in his way and they bought arguably the best roster in the country. If he doesn’t win it this year he probably never will.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 8:30 am to secuniversity
"because he's a significantly better gameday coach than Saban...." wait, what? This is sarcasm, right? I'm a diehard UGA fan, but gees dude, give the devil his due. To say this guy, or most every coach that has ever lived, is a better gameday coach than Saban is just silly and stupid.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 8:50 am to Darindawg
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"because he's a significantly better gameday coach than Saban...." wait, what? This is sarcasm, right? I'm a diehard UGA fan, but gees dude, give the devil his due. To say this guy, or most every coach that has ever lived, is a better gameday coach than Saban is just silly and stupid.
That stuff got passed around because Coach Saban chose to beat you to death with defense for so many years. He could coach both sides of the ball better than most.
What makes his genius so unique on gameday, for so long, is his ability to have his team ready to play every week. There were plenty of times that BAMA was put on upset alert because of where the schedule lay for some teams. Coach Saban didn't play that game. The guy understood human nature like no other and the right buttons to push to get the best when the best was needed.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:55 am to secuniversity
People don't give Saban the credit he deserves fro game day. Every coach out the makes a mistake or two every single game. Sometimes the decision swings a game for or against their team. Some coaches can have a ton of talent and make so many poor decisions their team has no chance of winning consistently. To win at a high level you must have players, development, game preparation and game day decisions. Saban did excellent on every level, and his record shows that.
Might there be a better game day coach? Maybe. But not many. And they can't do all the other things that Saban did at a high level. Nobody is head and shoulders above Saban in any of the areas, though.
Might there be a better game day coach? Maybe. But not many. And they can't do all the other things that Saban did at a high level. Nobody is head and shoulders above Saban in any of the areas, though.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 8:47 pm to bamameister
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Kirby isn't winning championships with his gameday mind.
What do you consider to be part of "gameday mind"?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:14 am to RammerJammer91
I dislike mich and Jim harbough but “the born on third base” is one of the most spot on coaching trolls of all time.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:08 am to JDNac
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Saban
Changed LSU in 3 years. Already historically dominant Alabama had him for 20. I think Alabama will be ok.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:00 pm to DawginSC
Signed vs. retained, including the portal.
Apparently this has no metric for measuring seasoned non-BC players who have effectively become BC-equivalent. (highly subjective, but probably explains the success of teams like Ole Miss and MIzzou.)
Apparently this has no metric for measuring seasoned non-BC players who have effectively become BC-equivalent. (highly subjective, but probably explains the success of teams like Ole Miss and MIzzou.)
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