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re: College Football Coach Rankings: Greg McElroy releases Top 25 head coaches

Posted on 3/28/25 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 3:50 pm to
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Final rankings would likely have been exactly what happened just in different order

Oregon
UGA
ND
OSU


Why would Notre Dame make a 4 team playoff in that scenario?
Posted by That LSU Guy
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:04 pm to
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and what was the state of each program when they took them over? I never said that Notre Dame or Penn State didn't win a shite ton of games between 1900-1990.
You have to overlook the troll, he won't answer facts.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:17 pm to
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Likely false. OSU would have probably been the #4 seed this season.

Every year prior to 2024 good wins counted more than anything else. OSU had 2 top 10 wins, while neither Texas nor PSU had 1. UT and PSU got their rankings because of a change in the committee's approach. OSU also beat PSU head to head. BSU/ASU are out 100% in this scenario.

Final rankings would likely have been exactly what happened just in different order

Oregon
UGA
ND
OSU

We saw Oregon/OSU in the Rose and we saw UGA/ND in the Sugar. ND/OSU still meet for the title and OSU wins.



Umm, Ohio St was ranked #6. They didn't change the rankings for the playoffs. #11 Alabama didn't make the 12 team playoff for example.

You were the 3rd ranked Big10 team. So you think the Big10 was going to get in 3 out of 4 playoff spots? And Ohio St after losing to a 5 loss team in their last game was going to be the 3rd team?

That doesn't make any fricking sense.

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It's absolutely harder to win the playoff than it was before. It is NOT harder to get to the playoff.


Getting there is kind of important.

Like it or not, you can win a national championship easier now than ever before. You do not have to be the same type of team, you do not have to have the same type of season.

Name another national champion in history that lost to a 5 win team in their final game of the season. I'm unaware of any.

Posted by That LSU Guy
PVB
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:18 pm to
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He couldn't even beat Alabama the same year Oklahoma and Vandy did.
He didn't lose to them either...
Posted by That LSU Guy
PVB
Member since Jul 2008
14103 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:20 pm to
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TrueLefty forgot to log out of his alter.
Oops!
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:23 pm to
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Name another national champion in history that lost to a 5 loss team in their final game of the season. I'm unaware of any


2007 LSU
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 4:28 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61687 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:26 pm to
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Name another national champion in history that lost to a 5 win team in their final game of the season. 


I thought Michigan won 8 games.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:33 pm to
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Is it easier to get into the playoffs now? Yes.

Is it also a much harder playoff run that in the past? Yes.


It's easier to win a national championship is what it boils down to. The standards you have to meet to win a national championship are lower than they ever have been in modern football.

Some team could have a great season and win the playoffs etc still. Oregon came close. But it's no longer a requirement.

To me, it's a joke that Ohio St even got the opportunity. Really should have just been Oregon vs Georgia, but bitches need their pageants.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:34 pm to
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I thought Michigan won 8 games.


My bad, I was off 1.

Ok, name another national champion in history that lost to a 6 win team in the final game of the season.



Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:34 pm to
I wouldn’t have Bert anywhere near that high.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61687 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:36 pm to
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My bad, I was off 1.

Ok, name another national champion in history that lost to a 6 win team in the final game of the season.


Why do you use win total at the time of the game and rankings from the end of the year?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37663 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:39 pm to
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Name another national champion in history that lost to a 5 win team in their final game of the season.


What five win team? Oh, you mean the eight win team that beat Alabama in a bowl game?

You just seem like you’re bitter. Based on your criteria should Alabama have gotten a mulligan in 2011?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:45 pm to
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What five win team? Oh, you mean the eight win team that beat Alabama in a bowl game?

You just seem like you’re bitter. Based on your criteria should Alabama have gotten a mulligan in 2011?


I was off 1. Michigan was a 6 win team at the time they beat Ohio St. My bad.

I have nothing to be bitter about, someone has to win it.

The format is shite and I'm going to say so. Just because your team won it doesn't mean it's not a shite format that includes a bunch of teams that don't really have legitimate argument to be a national champion.

Even if Alabama had won it, it's a shitty format. Alabama won multiple poll era national championships, was still a shitty format that people worked to change for many years.

Alabama didn't get a mulligan in 2011. You are just demonstrating you don't know how things work. They took the 2 best teams as always. The funny thing is you all thought it was going to be Michigan and Ohio St who did it first. Then you all cried.

This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 4:46 pm
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
24176 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:09 pm to
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Umm, Ohio St was ranked #6. They didn't change the rankings for the playoffs. #11 Alabama didn't make the 12 team playoff for example.

You were the 3rd ranked Big10 team. So you think the Big10 was going to get in 3 out of 4 playoff spots? And Ohio St after losing to a 5 loss team in their last game was going to be the 3rd team?

That doesn't make any fricking sense.


I know you are fighting a terrible fight and going down with the ship.

Did you read anything I wrote? The committee changed the rules to not punish CCG losers. They literally said that. They never did that from 2014-2023. So PSU and Texas were ranked there because of that.

If you compare resumes of those 3 teams, it's not close. OSU had 2 top 10 wins, Texas and PSU had a combined 0. And OSU beat PSU @PSU

But you keep going down with the ship
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:39 pm to
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I know you are fighting a terrible fight and going down with the ship.

Did you read anything I wrote? The committee changed the rules to not punish CCG losers. They literally said that. They never did that from 2014-2023. So PSU and Texas were ranked there because of that.

If you compare resumes of those 3 teams, it's not close. OSU had 2 top 10 wins, Texas and PSU had a combined 0. And OSU beat PSU @PSU

But you keep going down with the ship


Wtf are you talking about with ships going down? Are you retarded?

Texas and Notre Dame would have been in before Ohio St. Texas was 11-2 with both their losses coming against #2 Georgia.





Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
3096 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:07 pm to
I think Bert would have made Arkansas an 8 win floor given another year or two.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
24176 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 6:15 am to
I think you need to look in a mirror

Texas had 0 top 25 wins at year end. OSU had two top 10 wins.

Go look at the years of the 4 team and you will see that good wins always trumped losing.

I said nd would get in for sure
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
11854 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 6:22 am to
Bert Bielema at 11? We’ve already seen what that fat clown could do
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:40 am to
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I think you need to look in a mirror

Texas had 0 top 25 wins at year end. OSU had two top 10 wins.

Go look at the years of the 4 team and you will see that good wins always trumped losing.

I said nd would get in for sure


Texas was ranked higher than Ohio St.

You're just making excuses claiming they would have punished Texas more, but it's not true. They were talking about SMU as a way to leave out Alabama, nothing more. All conference championship losers dropped spots.

The part you are leaving out is that Ohio St LOST it's final game of the season to an unranked team.

Texas also had 1 more win than Ohio St, since their 2nd loss wasn't in the regular season.


Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
16964 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:18 pm to
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Bert Bielema at 11? We’ve already seen what that fat clown could do

He got the benefit of doubt after beating South Carolina in the last bowl game. Also South Carolina is ranked too high.
This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 10:15 pm
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