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College football administrations are dumb

Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:07 am
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:07 am
I love the game...God’s sport, but the amount of money being thrown around and wasted is absolutely ridiculous.

The golden parachutes these shitty coaches are given are shameful and should be unacceptable for a state-funded university.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:09 am to
It’s pretty bad for sure
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:14 am to
I think one of the porblems is that the other coaches will use it against them in recruiting if the administration doesn't show faith that their coach will be successful long term. It really is a self-serving tactic as it can both harm your rival's recruiting and help to keep salaries up which benefits all coaches.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44345 posts
Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:14 am to
I think most ADs would rather look stupid than cheap for whatever reason. Auburn's administration decided it was better to pay Gus twice what he's worth than roll the dice on Jimmy Sexton bluffing about Arkansas.
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:18 am to
Stop paying the "supporter" fees to even be eligible to buy season tickets and stop buying tickets to games if you really think the coaches' buyouts are out of hand.
Posted by Leto II
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Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:18 am to
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Auburn's administration decided it was better to pay Gus twice what he's worth than roll the dice on Jimmy Sexton bluffing about Arkansas.

That decision still blows my mind
Posted by 1999
Where I be
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:19 am to
And now they’re gonna hire Kevin Steele
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:20 am to
We extended Pruitt before this season

You wanna see a dumb administration, do a case study of UT football since 2007. It’s amazing how much they get paid to make awful decisions completely contradictory to common sense.
This post was edited on 12/14/20 at 9:21 am
Posted by Huge Richard
Member since Dec 2018
3740 posts
Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:20 am to
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Auburn’s College football administrations are dumb
Posted by ryker
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:24 am to
Don't miss Joe Alleva. That guy was the worst AD ever. Biggest moron in the country.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24954 posts
Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:24 am to
I, for one, don't understand this race to the top of contract terms. All of college football has lost their damn minds when coaches suddenly have 10 year, fully guaranteed multi-million dollar contracts.

And I'm not, for once, picking on Aggy...it's just the most glaring example of how out of control college coaching contracts have become.

Getting off the trajectory we're on would take a coordinated effort by all universities, but that will never happen.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44345 posts
Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:24 am to
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That decision still blows my mind


It's a lot worse with the benefit of hindsight, but let's say Jimmy hadn't been bluffing, Auburn offers Gus a raise commensurate with what he accomplished in 2017, and he actually ends up leaving for Arkansas. Now instead of driving the coaching carousel you find yourselves caught on it, and unless the AD hits a home run on the hire the entire fanbase wants his head on a plate. It's just a no-win situation, which is why they decided to overpay him instead of risk looking cheap and passive to prospective hires, recruits, and the fanbase.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:33 am to
quote:

I think one of the porblems is that the other coaches will use it against them in recruiting if the administration doesn't show faith that their coach will be successful long term. It really is a self-serving tactic as it can both harm your rival's recruiting and help to keep salaries up which benefits all coaches.


For sure.

State governments could put caps on how much these salaries and buyouts can be.
I hate government intervention, but I think they probably should at this point.
Posted by ryker
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Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:35 am to
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State governments could put caps on how much these salaries and buyouts can be.
I hate government intervention, but I think they probably should at this point.


Not trying to get political but this is not a good idea. Most schools athletic programs are 100% self sufficient. They can find a way to pay a coach if they want to spend a ton.
Posted by PikeBishop
Bristol, TN
Member since Feb 2014
975 posts
Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:36 am to
These SEC athletic departments are all (except probably Vanderbilt) pulling in something like $100 to $200 million per year in revenue. This is a fairly good size business operation, so you might think it would be a good idea to hire somebody with good financial sense to oversee this kind of thing.

But you would be wrong. I think the instinctive move is to hire some good ole boy who can backslap the boosters into coughing up the money for donations.

If you're running Apple or IBM, you have to sell something to bring in money to satisfy the shareholders. If you're running an SEC athletic dept., you just circle back to the fans/shareholders and ask them to give money to the company to make up the difference. It's pretty crazy when you think about it.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35941 posts
Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:41 am to
Nm
This post was edited on 12/14/20 at 9:42 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:46 am to
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We extended Pruitt before this season

You wanna see a dumb administration, do a case study of UT football since 2007. It’s amazing how much they get paid to make awful decisions completely contradictory to common sense.


Aaaaand, who was it that hired Pruitt and then extended him?

The story of Fulmer and Tennessee since about 2005 has been unlike any other in SEC annals. Divided fan base from the loss to Vandy in 2005, the embarrassing loss at Alabama in 2007, to finally pulling the plug in 2008. Some wanted him gone after that Vandy loss. Even in 2008, he still had his supporters. After being fired, he had enough power to be allowed to remain on the periphery of Tennessee athletics, continued to raise money, was appointed special advisor to the president, and positioned himself to get the AD job. He hires Pruitt and then extends him, much to the chagrin of Vol fans, who almost universally seem to believe that Pruitt will never be able to get the job done.

Fulmer is the problem. Pruitt is his boy. Even if Pruitt gets fired, do Tennessee fans want Fulmer hiring another coach?

Tennessee needs a strong leader at the top who has the stones to tell Fulmer it's time to retire.
This post was edited on 12/14/20 at 12:51 pm
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:47 am to
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ollege football administrations are dumb



They take their direction from the big money guys who usually pony up for the buyouts

But it is ridiculous to have one guy represent almost every big name college coach.He negotiates the coaches buyouts while negotiating a new contract for the same HC position
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:52 am to
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should be unacceptable for a state-funded university.


What does this have to do with any of it? Everything is privately funded
Posted by PikeBishop
Bristol, TN
Member since Feb 2014
975 posts
Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:53 am to
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State governments could put caps on how much these salaries and buyouts can be.
I hate government intervention, but I think they probably should at this point.

The problem is that the legislature in one state could impose a cap, but that would have no impact on a program in another state. Who thinks the state of Alabama would ever do anything to impose a limit on this kind of thing?

The fact is that we've got an arms race going on now in college football with the salaries and the facilities. One way to end an arms race is by signing a treaty with your competitors to establish an upper limit.

I don't see that happening, either. How would you ever get all the schools to agree to that?

This post was edited on 12/14/20 at 9:55 am
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