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Coastal Carolina closes it’s NIL collective. SEC related in quote
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:52 am
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:52 am
Expect this to be one of many doing same
“If you go to Alabama, you go to Oklahoma, they have hundreds of years of history where they have donor bases from established individuals ... if you think about it, coastal is really dealing with a bunch of, you know, mid-30s, maybe early 40 guys who are still in the process of building their wealth, and their livelihood,” Hall said in August. “The alumni has been a challenge. It hasn’t been as easy as I thought. I thought there would be a little bit more support from them on that basis, but it really hasn’t come to fruition.”
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“If you go to Alabama, you go to Oklahoma, they have hundreds of years of history where they have donor bases from established individuals ... if you think about it, coastal is really dealing with a bunch of, you know, mid-30s, maybe early 40 guys who are still in the process of building their wealth, and their livelihood,” Hall said in August. “The alumni has been a challenge. It hasn’t been as easy as I thought. I thought there would be a little bit more support from them on that basis, but it really hasn’t come to fruition.”
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:53 am to tigerskin
I feel like Saban caught a lot of flack on this board for arguing against NIL because idiots on here said it would lead to more parity and he was scared of that.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:56 am to tigerskin
I don't like the way all of this is headed.
We should enforce the rules and use NIL to reward established athletes who build a reputation for themselves on the field.
It was never intended for, and should not be allowed as, a recruiting tool.
For some reason everyone is just openly doing it, and it's not good for the game, IMO.
We should enforce the rules and use NIL to reward established athletes who build a reputation for themselves on the field.
It was never intended for, and should not be allowed as, a recruiting tool.
For some reason everyone is just openly doing it, and it's not good for the game, IMO.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:58 am to tigerskin
NIL is not what I expected. I thought it would just be businesses offering to put a player on a poster to advertise or something. Not Millions into a large pool of money to give out. I was never for it either.
I guess in a way the “Collectives” are businesses that bring “exclusive content” to its donors. But it’s just a work around to what I thought NIL would be.
I guess in a way the “Collectives” are businesses that bring “exclusive content” to its donors. But it’s just a work around to what I thought NIL would be.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:01 pm to tigerskin
This will be the first of many.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:01 pm to Decker
NIL is a good thing but being used wrong. If ea sports wants to make a game and put arch manning for example on the cover and pay him 1 mil fine… if nix Daniels, and the dude for Washington make a shirt and market it fine… a bunch of donors telling a kid we will give u 1 mil to come to our school that’s not how should be allowed to be used.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:01 pm to Decker
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it would lead to more parity
It will and can for the schools in the big conferences that have access to money.
Coastal Carolina became a four year university in 1975, and added residency halls in 1993 with an enrollment of just 4K.
They only have under 10K enrollment now. Their issue is not the same as other long time traditional schools with a larger alumni base.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:03 pm to paperwasp
HS recruits now asking $5k (and more) just to visit a school wasn't quite the intention. 
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:05 pm to tigerskin
again, kids dont go to Coastal Carolina because they GAF about college sports.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:06 pm to Hback
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HS recruits now asking $5k (and more) just to visit a school wasn't quite the intention.
Auburn was the author of this. True story.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:07 pm to tigerskin
Anyone who didn't see this was going to be bags of cash for highschool and college kids is absolutely an idiot.
Anyone who doesn't think that NIL and the portal are an effective free agency to make money is also an idiot.
But fools were gonna get EA college football back so that's all that mattered.
This is why we have a big 2 now instead of big 5 conferences.
Big two is essentially a paid minor league pipeline for the NFL. Everyone else is a farm system for the big 2
CFB sucks now. Yeah I'ma keep on watching that shite though.
Anyone who doesn't think that NIL and the portal are an effective free agency to make money is also an idiot.
But fools were gonna get EA college football back so that's all that mattered.
This is why we have a big 2 now instead of big 5 conferences.
Big two is essentially a paid minor league pipeline for the NFL. Everyone else is a farm system for the big 2
CFB sucks now. Yeah I'ma keep on watching that shite though.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:08 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
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NIL is a good thing but being used wrong
Right, it is not happening the way it was intended. The NCAA, college presidents and administrations failed to put in a policy and guidelines for NIL.
Now we have free agency, and money men waving dollars at recruits and transfers.
Who could've predicted the issue? Only many who did here and elsewhere. I was on Saban's side concerning NIL and still am. However, it's the way the game is played and you better play it while trying to find reform, but how do you put the worms back in that can?
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:08 pm to mckibaj
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NIL is not what I expected. I thought it would just be businesses offering to put a player on a poster to advertise or something. Not Millions into a large pool of money to give out. I was never for it either. I guess in a way the “Collectives” are businesses that bring “exclusive content” to its donors. But it’s just a work around to what I thought NIL would be
This is not me criticizing you specifically but it blows my mind how people didn’t see exactly what has happened coming.
This is like my wife’s coworkers in education that act surprised that the kids are asking to go to the bathroom on hall pass to go have sex in the bathroom, vape, etc. It’s like they forgot being a teenager somehow despite all clearly having been one at some point.
Anyone who didn’t expect major programs with wealthy benefactors to stand up companies to do barely above no-show work involving athletes’ name, image, or likeness for significant sums of money clearly has not followed the business of college football recruiting at all.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:11 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Perhaps something that is theoretically good but in practice is bad is actually just a bad thing
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:11 pm to mckibaj
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NIL is not what I expected. I thought it would just be businesses offering to put a player on a poster to advertise or something. Not Millions into a large pool of money to give out. I was never for it either.
It was never going to be a simple reward for players at the top of their game. The Supreme Court pretty much said you can't tell adults they can't make money on their own. And we have no regulations outside of criminal activity to determine how people make money.
We could form an NIL collective for the kids with 4.0 gpas if we wanted to. Or incoming freshmen with curly hair. Or girls who want to major in engineering. Hand them a million dollars if you want.
NIL will never go away, and we will have to adjust to the new CFB world or stop watching.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:12 pm to tigerskin
NIL wasn’t for parity. Open your eyes.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:12 pm to Hback
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HS recruits now asking $5k (and more) just to visit a school wasn't quite the intention
It's absurd.
And I'm not even sure it's actually working out for those teams who are just buying a ton of players.
Miami finished 7–5. And not picking on A&M, but they created a precedent that it could actually be worse for the locker room.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:12 pm to paperwasp
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It was never intended for, and should not be allowed as, a recruiting tool.
Agree. But everyone knew it would become a 1099 gun for hire sport. And, it pretty much is, complete with unrestricted free agency & roster cuts.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:13 pm to StopRobot
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again, kids dont go to Coastal Carolina because they GAF about college sports.
How many of them went to coastal Carolina because they got an athletic scholarship?
How many of those would have been able to afford college without the scholarship?
How many will lose that opportunity when coastal Carolina decides to drop out of D1 entirely because they can't compete?
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:15 pm to DDsRevenge
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NIL wasn’t for parity. Open your eyes.
In a very cynical sense, it was. Schools that habitually underachieved but have great financial support saw it as a method to achieve parity with those who achieve.
NIL was for programs that, for whatever reason, have all the prerequisites to be good but simply have not been for the last 10, 20, 30 years.
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