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re: Coaching: Smart or Mullen?
Posted on 9/18/21 at 8:53 am to MacMan10
Posted on 9/18/21 at 8:53 am to MacMan10
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This is a terrible argument for who inherited a better team considering
It’s not though. Those teams were more successful. If you don’t like using a subjective measurement, we can go objective. We can compare which coach has a conference championship, been to the playoffs, head to head matchups, and record against quality opponents.
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Posted on 9/18/21 at 8:59 am to BrotherDawg84
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Mullen can coach. He took State to a #1 ranking.
I remember that week.
I searched for the weeks that UGA has been #1 with Kirby Smart. I found 2 weeks, so maybe not a great idea to mock Mississippi State about only 1 week.
Week 9 and Week 10 in 2017 LINK
Posted on 9/18/21 at 9:03 am to atlanta917
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We can compare which coach has a conference championship, been to the playoffs, head to head matchups, and record against quality opponents.
With different rosters. The question was if they had the same roster, who wins?
Kirby is obviously a better recruiter. The talent on his rosters on average has been much better. (If you can’t admit this I don’t know what to say)
I think what Mullen did at state was extremely impressive. They were going to a bowl game every year. He beat the brakes off of Georgia last year and I believe those two teams were equal in talent.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 9:06 am to MacMan10
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With different rosters. The question was if they had the same roster, who wins?
No two teams will ever have the same roster. Not sure what this matters. Saban consistently has the most talent, but I still think he’s the goat.
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The talent on his rosters on average has been much better.
Right, because he’s the better recruiter. I would assume most would agree that recruiting is part of being a HC.
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He beat the brakes off of Georgia last year and I believe those two teams were equal in talent.
Last year UGA had their 4th string QB in and was missing half their starters on defense. UGA was also without their top 3 WR’s that game.
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I think what Mullen did at state was extremely impressive.
All he did at msu was beat the teams he was supposed to beat. He had 3 wins against teams with 9 or more wins and no wins against teams with 10 or more wins. He amassed the worst record in ranked matchups in ncaa history. He had 4 first round picks on his 2017 msu defense and lost 31-3 against UGA.
This post was edited on 9/18/21 at 9:10 am
Posted on 9/18/21 at 9:09 am to MacMan10
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Just curious for the rants opinion. If you gave each coach the same roster, who wins?
Mullen
Posted on 9/18/21 at 9:09 am to BLG
Mullen coaches at flarda. How uch more help do you need? Got access to every kind of athlete ties 10. Kirby by a mile.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 9:11 am to dirty bastard
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Mullen coaches at flarda. How uch more help do you need?
Mullen is not a great recruiter. In fact, considering he's in the state that produces more elite football players than any state in the nation, but fails to recruit top 5 classes, he's not even a good recruiter.
edit: For the 3rd time in this thread, I will note it's why I don't think he's the long term answer for UF.
This post was edited on 9/18/21 at 9:13 am
Posted on 9/18/21 at 9:15 am to atlanta917
And yet if you go position by position for players who actual played Georgia would be higher ranked.
Trash was a 2*
Looks at this talent you had….
Dean
Ojalari
Nolan
J. Carter
Wyatt
Burns
T. Walker
Stokes
Campbell
Rice
Cine
C. Smith
Stevenson
A. Anderson
I see stats for all these guys.
I mean…please stop with the excuses. When you recruit twice as better as everyone else. You don’t get excuses.
Trash was a 2*
Looks at this talent you had….
Dean
Ojalari
Nolan
J. Carter
Wyatt
Burns
T. Walker
Stokes
Campbell
Rice
Cine
C. Smith
Stevenson
A. Anderson
I see stats for all these guys.
I mean…please stop with the excuses. When you recruit twice as better as everyone else. You don’t get excuses.
This post was edited on 9/18/21 at 9:17 am
Posted on 9/18/21 at 9:18 am to MacMan10
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please stop with the excuses
So injuries are excuses, but Mullen’s inability to recruit isn’t? lol ok. Thanks for proving you had no intention of having an honest discussion. If you just want to talk about things without context, then Smart has a better first 5 years of being a HC than Saban did. Wow, this is fun.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 9:19 am to MacMan10
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please stop with the excuses.
Not many responses yell “I am an idiot” better than this one
Posted on 9/18/21 at 9:19 am to dirty bastard
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Mullen coaches at flarda. How uch more help do you need? Got access to every kind of athlete ties 10. Kirby by a mile.
Dog fans cannot understand the question.
Yes. Kirby is better at recruiting. But when it comes to game day coaching. Mullen is better. We all know it. It’s ok. Kirby will win more over Mullen because of the talent. I would rather have Kirby as well considering everything.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 9:20 am to atlanta917
What?? My point is that after the injuries the talent level was actually equal…
Posted on 9/18/21 at 9:22 am to MacMan10
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But when it comes to game day coaching. Mullen is better.
There’s literally no objective way to determine this. What we know for sure is that Smart owns the h2h record, record against ranked opponents, has a conference title, and a playoff win.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 9:25 am to MacMan10
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What?? My point is that after the injuries the talent level was actually equal…
UGA had a 4th string QB in, none of their top 3 WR’s, and was missing half their defense. On top of this, this was during a covid season with no spring. Mullen still won the game and it’s not his job to take it easy on an injured UGA squad, but if you look at every other matchup where UGA isn’t missing most of their starters, all results have been the same. Again, context matters.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 10:52 am to MacMan10
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My point is that after the injuries the talent level was actually equal…
So much dumb in your posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 8:49 am to MacMan10
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If Florida were to beat Georgia again this year... we’d know the answer.
Do we know the answer now?
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