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re: Coach O ==== Miles (?)
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:04 pm to Mithridates6
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:04 pm to Mithridates6
You gotta give O points for trying.
I didn’t love the trial and error approach but it doesn’t really matter now. We got to where we want to be. Hopefully we can maintain it.
I didn’t love the trial and error approach but it doesn’t really matter now. We got to where we want to be. Hopefully we can maintain it.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:04 pm to lsupride87
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All thanks to Saban
The 2006 roster especially was fricking loaded
Anyway, Miles when the program was his own players was a solid, lets say 14th in the country type of program
2011 was the exception, not the rule
Yes, agree
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:04 pm to Mithridates6
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he was trying to move away from Miles/Cameron ineptitude
That’s great—he failed on that attempt. It regressed. He made a change the next year to Ensminger, who got it back to the miles era offense.
I’m not knocking O here. He played with what he had. But to act like he just walked in and had nothing to work with and miles was responsible for all of it is funny at the very least.
Don’t forget that Cam Cameron was a much bigger name than Canada or Brady for that matter.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:05 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Yes this is in reference to Kirby/Richt
Response threads by George Summers.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:07 pm to America1776
But at least O made effort to get the LSU offense out of the stone age.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:08 pm to Mithridates6
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He deserves more hate for all the millions he made and LSU produced more draft picks than Bama during his tenure yet we usually weren't even a close second to them.
The draft picks sorta flipped once Saban showed up and started pumping out draft classes.
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Even a decent coach could've had much more success. We're just now getting out of the shadow of his legacy of offensive suck enough to be able to recruit elite QBs
It’s amazing no other “decent” coaches really did any better.
During Miles tenure there are exactly 2 coaches who more NCs than him. Urban and Saban. 2 of the best ever.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:09 pm to SammyTiger
All depends on Bo Pelini
Man hasn't been DC exclusively I'm I used to be beast but yea I'm excited to seem vs Aranda this yr
Aranda I believe has a pretty good year at Baylor or at least he does well there jmo
Man hasn't been DC exclusively I'm I used to be beast but yea I'm excited to seem vs Aranda this yr
Aranda I believe has a pretty good year at Baylor or at least he does well there jmo
This post was edited on 8/21/20 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:09 pm to Peter167
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think its dumb u would make a comparison thread wtf
U that mad about LSU winning after all them titles smh that's jusy sad buddy
Swing and a miss
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:09 pm to SidewalkTiger
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The talent along both lines had noticeably decreased.
He left two #2ranked classes for O.
LSU's roster was mega loaded compared to what was left for Kirby
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:09 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I would say the distinction is the 2019 team under Orgeron was one of the best ever
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:10 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Yep sorry not so versed in your world of the sec rant
This post was edited on 8/21/20 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:10 pm to cyogi
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But at least O made effort to get the LSU offense out of the stone age.
Lol yeah... in year 3. His first attempt took us a step back. His next attempt was Ensminger, who was back to the run and button hook play calling that Cameron had.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:11 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Miles was a good coach, a better coach in his first 3 seasons than his last for sure. But he went all in on becoming a caricature after the 2007 title. It was all about his zany pressers and insistence on wearing jackets in 100 degree weather and less about QB recruiting and player development. Not to mention absurd loyalty to underperforming staff and players, refusal to adapt offensively, poor OL recruiting evals, and by the end it just felt like everything had passed him by.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:12 pm to America1776
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Lol yeah... in year 3. His first attempt took us a step back. His next attempt was Ensminger, who was back to the run and button hook play calling that Cameron had.
Granted, he failed at first, but at least he tried. Can't really say that about the coach that preceded him.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:12 pm to Peter167
He’s just pointing out how stupid the other thread/topic is. He’s not complaining about LSU
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:13 pm to RD Dawg
His team easily on level with Mac lost by 2 TDs so better keep that recruiting up
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:15 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Response thread? Pity SoG .... you're one of my favorite Bama posters.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:15 pm to cyogi
Mikes’ refusal to update the offense is why he was fired.
He was pretty good at pretty much every other part of the job. He just couldn’t get out of his own way on offense.
O took the good parts of Miles tenure and basically just said “I’ll do whatever it takes to find the right guy to run this offense”
He was pretty good at pretty much every other part of the job. He just couldn’t get out of his own way on offense.
O took the good parts of Miles tenure and basically just said “I’ll do whatever it takes to find the right guy to run this offense”
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:16 pm to S
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Miles was a good coach, a better coach in his first 3 seasons than his last for sure. But he went all in on becoming a caricature after the 2007 title. It was all about his zany pressers and insistence on wearing jackets in 100 degree weather and less about QB recruiting and player development. Not to mention absurd loyalty to underperforming staff and players, refusal to adapt offensively, poor OL recruiting evals, and by the end it just felt like everything had passed him by.
100% agree
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