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Clemson is 2-4 in their last 6 Top 25 games (0-2 vs SEC)

Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:30 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:30 am
1-4 vs non-ACC teams


vs #1 LSU - L 42-25

vs #7 Miami - W 42-17

@ #4 Notre Dame - L 47-40

vs #2 Notre Dame - W 34-10

vs #3 Ohio State - L 49-28

vs #5 Georgia - L 10-3



Of course, they don't have anymore Top 25 games this year, so this list won't get updated until December or January.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 8:34 am
Posted by Crimsonite94
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:32 am to
If Dabo comes to Bama (hope not) after Saban is done, Clemson goes back to irrelevancy.
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:33 am to

How is the ACC a P5 conference? Unreal.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:33 am to
They're likely breathing a sigh of relief knowing they have an easy ride through their schedule.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 8:34 am
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:41 am to
I'm sure this has been said many times about many teams (including Alabama), but you really do get the sense that they are trending down as program right now.

They're only a "Brent Venables is leaving blah blah" sort of deal away from that slope getting much steeper, IMO.
Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:44 am to
I have a feeling they'll drop another one. Their OL won't get bullied like they did last week, but they're not great either. No big play down the field WRs. Big step back at RB without Etienne. That is a recipe for a slip-up even vs ACC competition.
Posted by RebelExpress38
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:44 am to


I think 4 or 5 SEC west teams would go 11-1 with this joke of a schedule

NC State is the only team worth a crap besides UGA
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:47 am to
quote:

Clemson is 2-4 in their last 6 Top 25 games (0-2 vs SEC)
1-4 vs non-ACC teams


vs #1 LSU - L 42-25

vs #7 Miami - W 42-17

@ #4 Notre Dame - L 47-40

vs #2 Notre Dame - W 34-10

vs #3 Ohio State - L 49-28

vs #5 Georgia - L 10-3



Make no question about it....the Clemson nations sees the same thing which is why they are riding Dabo's arse to do what Nick Saban did when his ball control style of offense starting failing which was bring in Lane Kiffen to modernize the Bama offense.

The Problem is Clemson will most likely be 12-1 with arguably an ACC at a historical level of weakness and the fans will be calling fowl because they got "screwed" not making the playoffs.

It's going to be interesting to see how Dabo handles this issue.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:47 am to
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1-4 vs non-ACC teams


Wasn't Notre Dame technically an ACC team for both of those games?

Pretty sure they're 0-4 vs non-ACC ranked teams.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:49 am to
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vs #1 LSU - L 42-25



And for the most part, got completely outplayed in the semifinal game before this
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:50 am to
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Big step back at RB without Etienne.


This is the key to the whole thing, and nobody's talking about it.
Posted by RickDorf
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:50 am to
quote:

I'm sure this has been said many times about many teams (including Alabama), but you really do get the sense that they are trending down as program right now.



Certainly, I wished it was true about Bama going in decline but I never really believed it. One can really sense this is happening to Clemson and the ride is about over. This is one bad thing about playing in a weak conference: You've got to win them all (esp. your OOC games).
Posted by JCdawg
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:51 am to
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Wasn't Notre Dame technically an ACC team for both of those games?



Yes they were.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:51 am to
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Make no question about it....the Clemson nations sees the same thing which is why they are riding Dabo's arse to do what Nick Saban did when his ball control style of offense starting failing which was bring in Lane Kiffen to modernize the Bama offense.


Clemson's offense is just so basic and un-creative. When it has great playmakers and solid OL it works fine, but when those pieces are missing (2017, last Saturday)......it can really bog down into inability to do anything.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 8:52 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:51 am to
quote:

Wasn't Notre Dame technically an ACC team for both of those games?

Pretty sure they're 0-4 vs non-ACC ranked teams.



Yes, they were
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:55 am to
Dabo had a great run, but their downhill slide has started...
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 9:07 am to
quote:

mson's offense is just so basic and un-creative. When it has great playmakers and solid OL it works fine, but when those pieces are missing (2017, last Saturday)......it can really bog down into inability to do anything.



I don't mind losing to a better team and UGA was certainly the better team. I just can't get over how bad the play calling was and the QB play. They didn't even put up a fight. DJ literally looked like a rag in "Dawgs" mouth. (Pardon the pun).

He was stationary. Absolutely no mobility (there were some open lanes), he telegraphed every throw and his release was very slow with a bit of a wind-up. He looked like Logan Thomas from VT. When Ga saw no fear it became easy to stack the box and come after him every down.

Maybe this year was they wrong year to play this type of game as an opener. We could have used a tune-up game this year much like UCLA got before taking on LSU.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 9:08 am to
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He was stationary. Absolutely no mobility (there were some open lanes), he telegraphed every throw and his release was very slow with a bit of a wind-up. He looked like Logan Thomas from VT. When Ga saw no fear it became easy to stack the box and come after him every down.


He really did look like a deer in the headlights, which was pretty shocking giving he had already played in some big games against good teams. They even circled multiple examples of guys coming open on reads that he has to be able to make in that offense and he just didn't see it or wouldn't pull the trigger.

He's clearly better than that game, but he definitely lost his nerve a little in the pocket.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 9:12 am to
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He's clearly better than that game, but he definitely lost his nerve a little in the pocket.


The problem is the ACC is at what I think a historically bad league and DJ will have vulgar numbers this year against significantly inferior teams. (heaven help up if we actually lose a conference game). Maybe that will give him the confidence he needs to grow up. It's going to be hard to tell this year.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 9:19 am to
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I think 4 or 5 SEC west teams would go 11-1 with this joke of a schedule

NC State is the only team worth a crap besides UGA




Honestly I don't understand how Clemson fans even get remotely excited about that crap. Alabama whips the arse of most teams on our schedule, but there are typically 3-4 compelling games every year even if they end up being 42-14 finals. How the frick does anyone get excited about playing Boston College, Wake, UCONN, Georgia Tech, and Syracuse in football?
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