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Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:29 am to skipjackbama
This is going to work as a de facto response for a long time, isn't it?
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:30 am to Glorious
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Is this where I say “stop living in the past”?
No this is where you tell us about Bama’s past comparable basketball credentials since you made the comparison.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:30 am to BigBadBoodieDaddy
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BigBadBoodieDaddy
Here’s another Rhodes scholar gump.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:32 am to BigBadBoodieDaddy
You can only bump this thread when you hang a final 4 banner gumps.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:34 am to AUTiger789
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That Creighton game is a must-win.
No. It's not. Calling any game "must win" this early on is pretty silly.
Why don't you guys worry about doing better than 10-8 in league play? Or worry about beating Va Tech.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:35 am to REV-S
TPTB at Bammer don't really give a Frick about Bball. They didn't blink an eye doing $600m in upgrades to BDS but refuse to build a new bball arena
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:38 am to raWelgaE
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skipjackbama
= DOUCHE BAG!!!!
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:49 am to SouthernInsanity
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= DOUCHE BAG!!!!
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:50 am to Stidham8
Posted on 11/29/23 at 12:12 pm to EGO3x
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No. It's not. Calling any game "must win" this early on is pretty silly.
NCAA resumes are built in November and December. For example, in 2019 S Carolina finished 11-7 and tied for 4th in the SEC but failed to even be on the Bubble for the Tournament due to their OOC play in Nov and Dec.
If Bama gets swept by Purdue, Arizona, and Creighton, you’re looking at a 8-5 OOC record at best with the only “quality wins” coming against Oregon and/or Liberty who are also looking like bubble teams at best themselves unless they win their conference.
That means 10-8 in SEC play would put Bama at 18-13 overall. That’s basically mandatory to get in the NCAA Tourney… 11-7 would be required to give you a bit of breathing room.
Basically Bama needs to win 10 games out of your 21 games remaining against SEC+Purdue+Arizona+Creighton.
Doable? Yes. But as I said in the last post there isn’t much room for error. Beating Creighton would let you sneak in at 9-9 in league play, so yes it’s a big deal.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 12:15 pm to AUTiger789
Spot on. What happens in November/December lays half of the groundwork for NCAA tournament seeding.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 12:18 pm to Stidham8
Yes, we understand how it works.
Auburn pretty comfortably made the tournament last year with one quality OOC win. It's not preferable, but it's not a disaster unless you couple it with terrible losses.
Auburn pretty comfortably made the tournament last year with one quality OOC win. It's not preferable, but it's not a disaster unless you couple it with terrible losses.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 12:19 pm to EGO3x
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Too many seats. Need to build a tiny arena like Auburn's. Then it's much easier to pack out and create more noise.
It's odd how obsessive Auburn is over anything that happens negative to Alabama. They enjoy hating Bama more than they enjoy rooting for their own team.
Pathetic existence.
Carolina fans talk about this. A lot of us would love to play a few games in the old collesium. It was built for basketball and always loud
Posted on 11/29/23 at 12:36 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Yes, we understand how it works. Auburn pretty comfortably made the tournament last year with one quality OOC win. It's not preferable, but it's not a disaster unless you couple it with terrible losses.
Bama has swung for the fence the last few seasons in OOC scheduling and up to this year it has paid off. Losing those big OOC games doesn’t penalize you all that much, and winning a few gives your seeding a big boost as Alabama took advantage of both in 2021 and 2023 especially.
The problem is when you go 0-5 against big OOC matchups you would have been much better off just playing two or three of those and cashing some automatic wins with the others.
Heading into the season, neither Ohio State nor Clemson were projected to be automatics for the NCAA Tournament. They are now looking pretty strong mostly because of wins over Bama.
Bama needs to hope both continue to look good as they move into conference play because if both slip back to preseason expectations and are fighting for Tournament slots along with Alabama, that’s not going to bode well for the Tide.
Bama can beat Purdue and Arizona but those are both very tall tasks. Creighton seems winnable and a win there would rectify these first two losses IMO. That’s why I think it’s a crucial game.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 12:41 pm to AUTiger789
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The problem is when you go 0-5 against big OOC matchups you would have been much better off just playing two or three of those and cashing some automatic wins with the others.
Not really. Beating ULM and Austin Peay instead of losing to Duke and USC does nothing to help you. The selection committee cares absolutely zero about # of wins.
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Bama needs to hope both continue to look good as they move into conference play because if both slip back to preseason expectations and are fighting for Tournament slots along with Alabama, that’s not going to bode well for the Tide.
Alabama just had to get better as a basketball team. If they do that they'll be fine. If not they'll lose to most of the good teams they play. They aren't in any sort of hole at this point record/resume wise, nor will they be if they lose the 3 upcoming tough games (other than probably losing any chance of being a top 2-3 seed, which isn't happening anyway).
Their issue is how they are playing. It's not even December yet, they have no bad losses and a ton of top 50 type games left (too many to even count). If they become a good basketball team they'll win games and have a good resume. If they continue to defend like matadors they'll likely be a 18-13 team hanging on the bubble.
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 11/29/23 at 12:43 pm to Stidham8
Allowing accessories to murder play is paying off!
Posted on 11/29/23 at 1:04 pm to AUTiger789
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There are 4th and 31 polo shirts being sold at a Tuscaloosa men’s store. Hatred in this rivalry is two-sided
Not sure how buying a shirt with that message
on it equates to "hatred". I don't like
Auburn but I don't hate you guys over the greatest
rivalry game in college football.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 1:07 pm to Stidham8
Clemson probably has one of the oldest teams in the NCAA. This is their year. I think they went undefeated (or almost) the first half of the ACC schedule last year.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 1:11 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Not really. Beating ULM and Austin Peay instead of losing to Duke and USC does nothing to help you.
Losing to Purdue, Arizona, and at Creighton and beating ULM and Austin Peay is absolutely better than losing those first 3 and also losing to Ohio State and Clemson.
3-2 against a tough 5 game schedule is always better than going 0-5 against an also tough 5-game schedule.
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The selection committee cares absolutely zero about # of wins.
That’s ridiculous. Of course they do, not to mention those losses affect your NET. How many 16-15 teams get into the NCAA Tournament? How many 17-14 teams get in?
Conversely how many 21-10 SEC teams get left out?
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They aren't in any sort of hole at this point record/resume wise, nor will they be if they lose the 3 upcoming tough games
No one said they were in a hole. But if you lose 5 OOC games without any corresponding wins against any teams likely to be in the Top 9 seeds of the NCAA Tourney, it leaves virtually zero room for error in SEC play. You absolutely have to go 10-8 in SEC play or make a deep run in the SEC Tourney.
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If they continue to defend like matadors they'll likely be a 18-13 team hanging on the bubble.
Or in other words a 10-8 SEC team unless a miracle happens against Purdue or Arizona or you can win one on the road at Creighton. That also makes Liberty a must win.
Again, with each loss OOC the margin for error slips away. No one expects Bama to beat Purdue or Arizona. But if you are going to lose those games, you probably need to beat Ohio State and win against Clemson at home. It’s not a tough concept.
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