re: Chubb vs Guice: Week Eight

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Meanwhile, Chubb's OL...

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Has three new starters with one being a true freshman and another a RS Freshman. Add to that we had one of the worst (if not the worst) Olines in the SEC last year.

Look. It all comes down to preference and favorite. Is it surprising that LSU fans prefer Guice and UGA fans prefer Chubb?

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Georgia fans are pathetic.

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In fairness, Deeprig is just giving a bit of payback for all the Fournette is greater than Gurley threads and Guice is better than Chubb threads we had to wade through during off season.

Well, you also need to account for how much our WRs get carries as well. For instance, Russell Gage has more carries on the season than Brousette does. Derrick Dillon, another WR, only has 2 fewer carries than Brousette. I think the premise of the argument, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that UGA spreads the ball around more in the running game.

I'm going to remove the UT Chatt game since Guice didn't play. In the other 7 games, LSU has run the ball 312 times. Of those 312 carries, Guice has accounted for 124, or 39.7% of the team's total carries.

I'm going to count all of UGA's games because your top 3 have been healthy for all 3. In 7 games, UGA has run the ball 343 times. Of those 343 carries, Chubb has accounted for 107 of those, or 31.2% of the team's total carries.

So yes, LSU has leaned on Guice a little more than UGA has leaned on Chubb. However, I think some of the discrepancy can be explained buy the fact that LSU has been involved in more close games than UGA. UGA has been a better football team and been involved in more blowouts. So naturally, you'd probably expect that UGA backups have probably been given more carries. LSU hasn't had that luxury because they've been playing more games that weren't already decided by the 4th quarter.

Ultimately, LSU backups and WRs are getting more carries than they did when Fournette was here. In Fournette's 2015season (when he was healthy the entire season), he accounted for 300 of LSU's total 505 carries on the season, or 59.4%, which is ~20% more than Guice is being asked to do this year.

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Gotcha. maybe he will develop and you guys will have two really good backs next year. (Maybe more. I'm not familiar with who you have behind them. I know you have little Fournette, but he wasn't considered a great back if I remember correctly. Good, but not real good)

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LSU will likely take a step back in the running game next year absent signing a big recruit who produces as a true freshman like Fournette did. Williams and Guice will be gone, and the rest of the running backs on the roster have accounted for 48 career carries (Brousette and Claude Edwards-Helaire)

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Well, you also need to account for how much our WRs get carries as well.

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Fair point. We ran a bunch last year, but nearly as many this year. If we ran a bunch of jet sweeps Chubb might not ever get a carry!

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I think the premise of the argument, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that UGA spreads the ball around more in the running game.

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Honestly? I have no idea what the argument is! With the Rant an argument is made and started, but it rarely ends up being about the original point!

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So yes, LSU has leaned on Guice a little more than UGA has leaned on Chubb.

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I am guessing we are using Chubb less for two reasons. To keep him fresh for the second half, and to make sure he stays healthy. As Swift has matured and gotten better, I think it morphed into a "Get Swift more experience and ready for next year." thing.

Hey people can argue all they want, but truth is nobody is going to change their minds, and there are a dozen different ways to spin stuff to favor their favorite player/back. We just have to appreciate the talent our schools have and enjoy them while they are there.

That specific argument is tough, because Chubb doesn’t need to play as much so he should be fresher when he comes into the game.

But we’ve also been up by so much, that he’s not playing later in the games when the opposing defenses are tired.

I’m sure we will both find ways to fit it into our narrative

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I think all, or at least most of the top backs are committed....but there is always an underrated kid that takes a step forward and plays well.

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I honestly have no clue. I don't really follow recruiting anymore throughout the season. I really don't start paying attention until a couple weeks before NSD

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He is talking about Fournette quitting on his team again and not playing this past weekend. You would have thought they would have learned he quits when he was playing for lsu...

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At the end of the year, I will be shocked if every single RB doesn't miss at least one game. The pounding they take week in and week out is mind boggling.

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And still won Rookie of the year!

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well ROY this year should come down to Hunt and Fournette, so that may end up being moot.

I know we like to troll each other on here, but Fournette didn't play yesterday because it wasn't worth the risk and they were coming up on the bye week next week. Based on his interviews all week he said he was fine and was going to play Sunday. I don't think that was his decision ultimately. At the end of the day, though, there was no sense in risking making a minor injury worse when they're in a tight division race and will need him the rest of the season.

And running in the NFL just isn't the same as college, as I'm sure you know. It's damn near impossible to make it through an NFL season as a running back without getting a little nicked up. I think Fournette is thanking god that the carry that caused his injury wasn't much worse because it did not look pretty.

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I honestly have no clue. I don't really follow recruiting anymore throughout the season. I really don't start paying attention until a couple weeks before NSD

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James Cook (Dalvin Cook's brother)is still out there, but we are favored to get him, too.
Harold Joiner, but he goes down really easily on first contact. Big kid, but doesn't seem to like contact.
After that you go down to the #18 RB and he weighs something like 178LBS. Small.