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re: Chips are down: Cover 1 man free or Cover 3 zone against a modern RPO offense?
Posted on 4/30/26 at 1:29 pm to GreatPumpkin
Posted on 4/30/26 at 1:29 pm to GreatPumpkin
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Unless you are insanely talented cover 1 will get you cooked. The 3 high shell that morphs into Tampa-2 seems pretty effective
You mix it up the entire game.
You don't play 2 or 3 coverages the entire game. You play over a dozen, over 20, with disguises and post snap shifts
You make the QB read most everything on the run
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 1:38 pm to shinerfan
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If you're offered a boatride out to the "fishin' hole" think long and think hard.
I saw that movie...
Posted on 4/30/26 at 1:43 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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You mix it up the entire game.
You don't play 2 or 3 coverages the entire game. You play over a dozen, over 20, with disguises and post snap shifts
You make the QB read most everything on the run
Exactly. I don't think people really understand how hard a QB's job is. All the concepts are so versatile now it's not as easy as "oh its cover 4 I'll just throw to the weakside flat" and boom its palms and the corner squats and pick 6's it and changes the game.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 2:17 pm to Lonnie Utah
3-4 base, cover 0
Posted on 4/30/26 at 2:23 pm to Lonnie Utah
All depends on personnel and matchup. All things equal, would lean cover 3 to try to eliminate explosives. If the defense has a decided advantage on the LOS, I prefer the aggressiveness of cover 1.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 2:56 pm to Raoul Stimulato
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With superior athletes, cover 1.
Press the box and force O to be uncomfortable
Talent-equated or inferior talent? I’m going cover 3. Death by 1000 cuts, perhaps. But make the O string together sustained drives
Right about the inferior talent, but with like and superior athletes I'd mix them. Even with superior athletes, if you run that cover 1 all it takes is one missed assignment or tackle and that's it.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 3:02 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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I love a thread where we actually talk about the game of football
You can remember this this thread when poster of the year rolls around.. .
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:00 pm to redfishfan
yes sir 
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:07 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:35 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
I would think you want your best players on the field. If your DL room is stacked, 4-3 or 425. If your linebackers are stacked, 3-4. Who are my future NFL players? Get them on the field.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:48 pm to deeprig9
in a 4-3, you want two big ole boys in the middle, and two hellacious athletes at defensive end, plus your 3 linebackers
in a 3-4, you need THREE big ole boys in the middle, and you can get by with hellacious 205-210 pounders at outside linebacker (in college) - I'm speaking from a G5 point of view, then grow them to top SEC personnel from there
in a 3-4, you need THREE big ole boys in the middle, and you can get by with hellacious 205-210 pounders at outside linebacker (in college) - I'm speaking from a G5 point of view, then grow them to top SEC personnel from there
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:50 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
other words, in a 4-3, your two defensive ends can play the hell out of some pickup basketball
3-4, your outside linebackers can all slam dunk a basketball
3-4, your outside linebackers can all slam dunk a basketball
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:51 pm to Lonnie Utah
All out blitz. Hit the quarterback every play
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:53 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Maybe I'm spoiled as a UGA fan, but we don't have any DL who aren't big ole boys.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 5:31 pm to Lonnie Utah
If they have a great running QB, you play zone to keep your eyes mainly up front. In man you are usually looking at the reciever not the QB.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:24 pm to deeprig9
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Maybe I'm spoiled as a UGA fan, but we don't have any DL who aren't big ole boys.
you're missing the point
you have two multi-ton blocks of granite on the inside of a 4-3 and you have 6'3, 240 athletic freakazoids at the 5 to 7 techniques
3-4, you have three blocks of granite on the inside, and your outside linebackers are 220 lb freakazoids - 230 if the can still run a 4.5
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:02 am to Walnut
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brother Marcel this forum only knows one thing — bait LSU fans and pretend they’re taking the bait. X’s and O’s might as well be Greek. Try “Chips are down, will Lane Kiffin get fired for screwing a co-ed by Year 2?” and you’ll have a more successful thread
I am not the TC here
Posted on 5/1/26 at 11:53 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Yes that’s why I used the word shell. The implication being variety out of the same base look.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 4:23 pm to Lonnie Utah
Well I am not a def cord lol but I will try to use my Madden knowledge.
If a team is 50-50, you want to run zone more because it keeps your defenders eyes up front, where as man does not. So verse a run team or 50-50 zone seems more effective.
If they pass heavy, man is better..because it has every target covered and usually has deep threats double covered(safeties are usually deep) so helps prevent deep balls. Probably depends on the QB you are playing too...if they are very good at reading a defense, they will know where the openings in the zone are and know when a target should be around there. Man you usually look for mismatches in coverage(like a LBer on TE or something).
If a team is 50-50, you want to run zone more because it keeps your defenders eyes up front, where as man does not. So verse a run team or 50-50 zone seems more effective.
If they pass heavy, man is better..because it has every target covered and usually has deep threats double covered(safeties are usually deep) so helps prevent deep balls. Probably depends on the QB you are playing too...if they are very good at reading a defense, they will know where the openings in the zone are and know when a target should be around there. Man you usually look for mismatches in coverage(like a LBer on TE or something).
This post was edited on 5/1/26 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 5/2/26 at 6:17 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Unless your Monte Kiffin..though we did have a few different cover 2's in Tampa..but we had defenders like Sapp, Brooks, Barber, etc..we could have done quite a few defenses prob. It was a talent thing...worked because we had a great depth chart on defense.
This post was edited on 5/2/26 at 6:20 pm
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