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re: CBS Sports: Alabama set to ink the top-rated college football recruiting class of all-time

Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:17 pm to
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The OSU this year and UGA had similar if not better talent on paper. It seemed to work out for Saban.

He isn't the best game day coach that has ever walked a sideline, but he is still pretty damn good in that regard.

He is an elite recruiter and best organizational leader in CFB.

The fact is that out of the 8 playoff games that he's won, 4 have been against tOSU,Georgia and (2) Clemson. That doesn't even include the SEC Championship games.
Aren't Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, and tOSU suppose to be the top-4 recruiting teams in the country?
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41901 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:23 pm to
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Aren't Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, and tOSU suppose to be the top-4 recruiting teams in the country?


Actually 2010 - 2020

No

Clemson hasn't been
LSU is 6

FSU and USC are in Top 5

I'll just finish with I want LSU to stay Top 5 and we'll give Bama fits for the twilight of Saban’s tenure. OL and DL are key for LSU and is why Bama has beaten us more than lost to us.
This post was edited on 2/1/21 at 12:24 pm
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:25 pm to
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So, for the record, you're saying ND, Oregon, USC, Texas and every school besides OSU and Clemson (out of SEC) have same yearly talent as Bama?

You're butthurt because you think I'm saying Saban is not a good Coach.

He is a great Coach that wins mainly because 90% of the time his team is more talented.

Maybe you should stop and quit being so insecure.

You really need to do some background before posting.
Of the 8 playoff wins, 4 are against Georgia, tOSU and twice to Clemson. He's 4-2 against the best recruiting teams in the country!...67% winning!
And that doesn't even count the SEC Championship games w/Georgia!
Steve, it's time to stop digging that hole you've dug yourself into.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24924 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:26 pm to
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He's the best at getting talent every year. It covers up the deficiency in other areas.


Saban is a great recruiter, but you are way underestimating the importance of the Saban's skills in talent evaluation, player development, and the way he has continued to adapt everything he does as the game has changed. He has completely revamped his offensive and defensive philosophies and schemes multiple times since he started at Bama. When something changes to put his preferred philosophies and schemes at a disadvantage he very quickly adjusts. You make it seems like he just gets the best HS players and then rolls the ball out there and gets results. That's nonsense.

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It covers up the deficiency in other areas.



Why don't you expound on this a bit? Let's talk about Saban's specific coaching deficiencies compared to his peers.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:30 pm to
Can't wait to see how this works out with all them Divas on one team.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:30 pm to
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Why don't you expound on this a bit? Let's talk about Saban's specific coaching deficiencies compared to his peers.
I've already tried to get him to do that, but I think he realizes that there are no facts to back him up and any attempt to bullshite his way through will only make things worse for him.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24924 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:32 pm to
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Can't wait to see how this works out with all them Divas on one team.


Me too. Given Saban's track record handling a bunch of top HS kids on one team, this should be a disaster.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:39 pm to
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OL and DL are key for LSU and is why Bama has beaten us more than lost to us.

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Actually 2010 - 2020

No

Clemson hasn't been
LSU is 6
FSU and USC are in Top 5

I'll just finish with I want LSU to stay Top 5 and we'll give Bama fits for the twilight of Saban’s tenure. OL and DL are key for LSU and is why Bama has beaten us more than lost to us.

Alabama has beaten both USC and FSU during your selective period, PLUS you apparently don't even realize that Alabama beat LSU 9 out of the 10 years you picked!
PS- go back and look at Georgia and Clemson's recruiting rank over the last 5 years!
Steve, Give it up!
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41901 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:39 pm to
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Of the 8 playoff wins, 4 are against Georgia, tOSU and twice to Clemson. He's 4-2 against the best recruiting teams in the country!...67% winning!


And his teams were more talented than every single one of these teams.

Are you just wanting to argue that he's winning because his teams or less talented?

ffs dude, on very RARE occasions does he play a game where the other team is more talented.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41901 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:43 pm to
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I've already tried to get him to do that, but I think he realizes that there are no facts to back him up and any attempt to bullshite his way through will only make things worse for him


His offense is pretty simple and QB's are more game managers than Uber talented. It works because he's got 5 stars blocking and keeping pocket clean. A few exceptions with some creativity - Sark and Kiffen.

His NFL stint showed bullying players doesn't work when they're men.

Take away the mulligan and that 2011 GOTC was a classic stupidity in FG tries.

His lack of ability to stop dual threat QB's with more talent.

Losing more than he should to less talented AU teams.

This post was edited on 2/1/21 at 12:45 pm
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:44 pm to
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Can't wait to see how this works out with all them Divas on one team.



He's had a load of "divas" every years for nearly 10 years, pal!..don't look like he's had much of a problem yet.
You forget,
Bama ain't LSU!
Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
3743 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:45 pm to
Having more talent is one thing, them all staying healthy is the difference.
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:46 pm to
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Bama has beaten us more than lost to us.


You could say that. 9 of the last 10 games in fact
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41901 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:54 pm to
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You could say that. 9 of the last 10 games in fact


Some of you bitches are so insecure.



Posted by Jacknola
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
4366 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:56 pm to

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But only Ole Miss and Hugh Freeze cheat to get recruits

If this is an admission, you left out barn and LSU. If this is a statement, answer is yes.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105405 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 1:02 pm to
I have no doubt it happens and happened at Auburn and every other school that isn’t Vandy, Mizzou, and Arky because if they are cheating they really suck at that too.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 1:03 pm to
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His offense is pretty simple and QB's are more game managers than Uber talented. It works because he's got 5 stars blocking and keeping pocket clean. A few exceptions with some creativity - Sark and Kiffen.Ever heard of Hurts, Tua and Jones? Also, count the # of Bama QBs drafted the last 10 years.

His NFL stint showed bullying players doesn't work when they're men.What in hell does that have to do with ANYTHING?

Take away the mulligan and that 2011 GOTC was a classic stupidity in FG tries.Again, so what....

His lack of ability to stop dual threat QB's with more talent.Show us a team that DOES stop elite dual threat QBs

Losing more than he should to less talented AU teams.
He's 9-4 against Auburn..wtf are you talking about?
and you just keep digging
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35930 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 1:05 pm to
247 and CBS make a killing off of A1abana fans with this same article every year! And the simpletons don’t even realize it!

Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
30875 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 1:09 pm to
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CBS Sports: Alabama set to ink the top-rated college football recruiting class of all-time


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