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re: Case for a National Seed: Auburn vs LSU
Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:43 am to AUTiger789
Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:43 am to AUTiger789
Not sure, but we would love to play y’all again to settle the debate.
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:47 am to Murph4HOF
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The Barn because they didn't get mercy ruled by an in state directional school.
Auburn has 3 Q4 losses LSU has 1. Regardless both arguments can be argued from different viewpoints and both would be correct. Both are getting national seed.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:58 am to AUTiger789
quote:No it's not, you seem to be bitching specifically about LSU here. Not Auburn vs the rest of the field, but Auburn vs LSU.quote:
As long as Auburn gets a National Top 8 seed, why do you care????
No shite. That’s the whole point of the thread
LSU finished tied for 3rd in the SEC at 19-11, 42-13.
Vandy finished tied for 3rd, 19-11, 39-16.
UGA finished 5th, 18-12, 42-14.
Why aren't you bitching about Auburn vs UGA, or Auburn vs Vandy?
If you think records and placement don't matter, why are you ignoring Ole Miss, who went 16-14, 37-18... and took the series vs Auburn on the final week?
The national seeds are going to be big overall picture, how their year went, how they project to do. They are not going to look at single matchups, because everyone has ups and downs over the course of the season.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:01 am to AUTiger789
I wouldn’t put anything past those idiots.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:10 am to AUTiger789
Because LSU is the best place on the planet for a super regional.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:15 am to Scoob
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No it's not, you seem to be bitching specifically about LSU here. Not Auburn vs the rest of the field, but Auburn vs LSU.
Because if you look at the resumes, Auburn and LSU are clearly 5th and 6th in the SEC.
It’s splitting hairs at some point, but Texas is clearly #1. Vandy is IMO a clear #2. After that I think Arkansas and Georgia appear to be slightly ahead of Auburn and LSU.
I think most anyone would agree those are the tiers at the moment.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:19 am to AUTiger789
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After that I think Arkansas and Georgia appear to be slightly ahead of Auburn and LSU.
Your logic makes no sense. LSU has a better record than Auburn but lost to Auburn so Auburn > LSU. Then, Arkansas has a better record than LSU by 1 game but LSU beat Arkansas but Arkansas > LSU still? You seem to just have a bone to pick with LSU. At the end of the day, we are gonna get the benefit of the doubt just like Bama does in football and Duke/UK does in basketball.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:21 am to AUTiger789
If Auburn beats LSU in football and has a higher SOS, but LSU has a better record overall and in-conference, who would get a playoff spot?
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:33 am to AUTiger789
I think Ole Miss should get the national seed over Auburn because Ole Miss took 2 of 3. Auburn also has more Q2-4 losses than Ole Miss.
See how that works? We can pick whatever metrics we want and make a case for lots of teams.
See how that works? We can pick whatever metrics we want and make a case for lots of teams.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:37 am to CatfishJohn
Can’t compare different sports, goober. I’d think an LSU fan could recognize they aren’t the same, at all
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:43 am to Jebadeb
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I think Ole Miss should get the national seed over Auburn because Ole Miss took 2 of 3.
Auburn also has more Q2-4 losses than Ole Miss.
See how that works? We can pick whatever metrics we want and make a case for lots of teams.
No. Not the same. In the OP I clearly laid out a side by side comparison in pretty much every meaningful metric…. RPI, Head to Head, conference record, SOS, record vs common opponents, etc.
I can do the same for Auburn vs Ole Miss, but the sum of the data is going to show Auburn with the clear better resume overall.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:43 am to lsudave1
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Your logic makes no sense. LSU has a better record than Auburn but lost to Auburn so Auburn > LSU. Then, Arkansas has a better record than LSU by 1 game but LSU beat Arkansas but Arkansas > LSU still? You seem to just have a bone to pick with LSU
Yeah, this really seems to be the case.
Let's lay this out directly- if Auburn didn't sweep LSU, they probably aren't even in the discussion to be a national seed. At that point they're on the Ole Miss level, who is projected to not even be a regional host.
LSU got swept on the road; they've done enough for the rest of the season that they are a strong consideration for a national seed. Hell, they may not be far from being the #1 overall, if not for the Auburn and A&M series.
So this bitching: Auburn's case is "we won the series". LSU's case is "look at the entire year".
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:49 am to AUTiger789
Ole Miss and Kentucky not great at all, swap either with Missouri and records swap instantly. That's the difference.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:51 am to Scoob
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Let's lay this out directly- if Auburn didn't sweep LSU, they probably aren't even in the discussion to be a national seed. At that point they're on the Ole Miss level
That’s bullshite.
Auburn has a #2 RPI and the #1 SOS.
In addition to an LSU sweep, Auburn won series against Vandy, Alabama, and at Tennessee. Auburn is a combined 3-0 against projected regional hosts Oregon State and Georgia Tech.
You’re ridiculous if you think you’re special.
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So this bitching: Auburn's case is "we won the series". LSU's case is "look at the entire year".
Buddy did you even read the data points in this thread??? LOL.
I ask again, other than getting to play Missouri and Texas A&M instead of Auburn playing Georgia and Ole Miss, can you name me one data point that shows LSU having a better resume than Auburn?
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:55 am to AUTiger789
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can you name me one data point that shows LSU having a better resume than Auburn?
We have the better conference and overall record. You got swept in 2 SEC series and us only in 1. I’m sorry that this upsets you. You will still get to host a regional in front of tens of fans in Plainseagle Park.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 11:57 am
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:00 pm to lsudave1
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We have the better conference and overall record.
Because you played Texas A&M (RPI #54) and Missouri (#134) while Auburn played Georgia (#1) and Ole Miss (#18).
Are you honestly trying to say that LSU got zero scheduling advantage in that?
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:02 pm to AUTiger789
Well if your argument is scheduling advantages then maybe your argument should be directed at Texas, who was gifted the easiest schedule of them all.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:06 pm to AUTiger789
That’s a great synopsis you have there but do you really think they put that much effort into it? They aren’t going screw the biggest fan base over because of some numbers.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:06 pm to AUTiger789
I think both are deserving, but you can't just compare 2 teams because you may be able to show that Auburn is deserving over LSU, but we can show that LSU is deserving over someone ranked ahead of us. We are not alone in a vacuum.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:17 pm to AUTiger789
You’re making your entire case on one team. One.
Again…. There are 8 National Seeds. There are approx 12 teams with credentials that can be argued to be included as one of those 8.
It’s Auburn vs the 12, not Auburn vs LSU.
Regardless of how important YOU may consider these points, but history proves they matter to the committee.
Win 18+ SEC regular season games.
Where do you rank in the final SEC regular season standings.
LSU trumps Auburn on both points.
Again…. There are 8 National Seeds. There are approx 12 teams with credentials that can be argued to be included as one of those 8.
It’s Auburn vs the 12, not Auburn vs LSU.
Regardless of how important YOU may consider these points, but history proves they matter to the committee.
Win 18+ SEC regular season games.
Where do you rank in the final SEC regular season standings.
LSU trumps Auburn on both points.
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