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re: Carson Shaddy speaks

Posted on 6/30/18 at 1:10 am to
Posted by Armchair_QB
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 1:10 am to
Then he’s a shitty right fielder.

Anyone who has played baseball knows that it’s the outfielder’s ball all the way in that situation. He’s got the best angle and the best look at the ball.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39211 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 1:54 am to
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For all you guys getting moist and touchy-feely over his platitudes, did he explain anything about the play?

Did anybody call it?


He said in his presser immediately after the game that nobody called it.

Because of that he might have panicked thinking nobody else would get it and pushed his way through.

I agree with the sentiment this might be on the left fielder who had a bee-line on the ball and was running forward instead of back at an odd angle.

I don't think this kid would try to deflect blame but if it's true that nobody called him off, that's on everyone...not just him, might look like the goat in the video but only because he was trying to make a play.
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 2:11 am to
20 interfered with lf...idiot overran the play...on the take
Posted by Arkla Missy
Ark-La-Miss
Member since Jan 2013
10288 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 2:13 am to
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For all you guys getting moist and touchy-feely over his platitudes, did he explain anything about the play?

Did anybody call it? Did he see know the FB was lining up to make the catch? Would he have done anything different if he had to do it over? etc, etc.

The interviewer should have asked specific questions about the play. If he didn't, then he dropped his own pop fly.

Agree with all of this. Of course that play was "a hard one to make" coming from 2nd, but it wasn't nearly as difficult of a play to make for the 1st baseman and/or right fielder, who were right there, which is why that play was theirs to make. Not going to crucify them about it, but I didn't hear him say much about what he probably should have done differently, which is probably to allow the first baseman to make the play; he was lined up with it. And 1st base and/or right should've called him off in a big way, but they didn't, I guess, by Shaddy's account, so that's that. Still my opinion he shouldn't have been going for it in the first place. ... Just hate to see something like that at this level & caliber of ball. That play should be shown to little leaguers in re 'how NOT to field a pop-up and the importance of playing your position & calling the ball.' ... Life goes on, I suppose, but this one is a very tough one to take.
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 2:47 am
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:21 am to
Poor coaching that no one called for it! Cost them the National Champ. game!
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 9:22 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30967 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:56 am to
It's amusing how people who don't know the game have such ridiculous opinions about what goes on in a game. Just a couple of "always the case" rules.....1) the player with the ball in frontof them calls for the ball if they can get to it. 2) if the second baseman can get to a pop foul behind 1st base, it's his ball to call if he can get to it, unless he's called off by the right fielder. 3) all fielders defer to the man calling for the ball if he's behind them on ANY fly ball.
With all that said, as the play appeared, the 2nd baseman should have called off the 1st baseman, but the right fielder should have called off the 2nd baseman when he realized that he could make the play. If nobody called for the ball, all 3 were at fault!...when nobody calls it, everybody should go for it.
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 9:58 am
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
13778 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:58 am to
Razorback triangle where balls get lost



S.O.S.
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 10:21 am
Posted by Arkla Missy
Ark-La-Miss
Member since Jan 2013
10288 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:17 am to
Yeah, ummm, all of that would've been fine had Shaddy actually caught the ball; instead he overran it. If you're going to play hero, better be goddamn sure you make the play.
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:22 am to
Fix was in
Posted by Arkla Missy
Ark-La-Miss
Member since Jan 2013
10288 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:38 am to
Nah, I think more like too much ego & overly cocky.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37310 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:01 am to
I say we go the conspiracy route. And like with every good conspiracy, let’s add a little bit of truth (perceived truth anyway) to make it more palatable/appetizing to the masses. If you look at the televised dugout shots, I’m pretty sure you’ll see that in game 1 the AR players were smiling, high 5’ing, happy and excited looking. However, if you look at game 2 the same type of shots (reminder AR was ahead for the bulk of the game) you’ll see a different looking AR team filled with scowls, anger almost.

So, the only assumptions one can make was either that the fix was in and players were privy to it (add in the what fix and the whys at your discretion) or there was a locker room quarrel involving the AR players sometime between the last evening and the first pitch of game 2 that affected their play.

P.S. the above is only a figment of someone’s imagination. Probably.

This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 11:08 am
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:06 am to
Steven Bartman is so happy about this. So is Bill Buckner.
Posted by Arkla Missy
Ark-La-Miss
Member since Jan 2013
10288 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:42 am to
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piggilicious
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 11:44 am
Posted by NOSTRODAMUS
Prairieville/Dutchtown
Member since Dec 2003
16863 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 1:22 pm to
Right fielder’s responsibility. His ball. He failed his team. Case closed. Anyone who knows baseball and saw the play knows this without question.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30967 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 3:19 pm to
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Right fielder’s responsibility. His ball. He failed his team. Case closed. Anyone who knows baseball and saw the play knows this without question.
You're correct if he knows that he can get to it and doesn't call it. The question is why didn't he call it..if he didn't. Even if 2nd baseman had called it, he should have called him off it....does anybody know if ANYBODY called it?
Posted by NOSTRODAMUS
Prairieville/Dutchtown
Member since Dec 2003
16863 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 6:42 pm to
Cole has probably caught dozens of pop flies just like that one so he knew if he could reach it or not. I believe the magnitude of the situation caused him to hesitate in calling everyone off, hoping shady would make the play. Ones nuts have to swell with the championship on the line. All three of those guys nuts shrunk.
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 6:43 pm
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
4019 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:50 pm to
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he could reach it or not.


Pretty obvious to everyone he could. He went into a slow jog 20 feet away and the ball still nearly hit him in the foot
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
29975 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:03 pm to
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It's good he pointed out that it isn't a routine play even though all the fans think it was


Yep. That's a rough no mans land foul ball for MLB players and have seen that same play end up no being caught at the highest level.

Sports can be cruel. Hogs had a great season. Props to that young man.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2977 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 9:33 am to
Disagree, the 1B had the ball all the way and had settled under it. It was a routine play until the 2B came flying across and bumped the 1B glove arm.
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15301 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 9:45 am to
Looks to me the 1B had the easiest and most direct path to the ball, but he even misjudged it. He didn't have time to correct his path to the ball even with Shaddy bumping into him.
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