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Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:44 pm to DaleDenton
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They already had the precedent set after claiming '64 a year they lost to a Texas team the undefeated Arkansas team stomped.
It's a little bit hard to see, but in the trophy case labeled 1964, that's the AP National Championship Trophy sitting in Alabama's athletic department office building.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:46 pm to AlaTiger
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Well according to them.....
Well according to them.....
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:50 pm to attheua
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Alabama, ranked #2, beat PSU, ranked #1, in the 79 Sugar Bowl. Usually when #2 beats #1 in the final game they move up.
Translation: just like 2011, a home loss "doesn't matter, so technically it never happened." Got it.
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:51 pm to AlaTiger
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Ten of the 13 national titles Alabama claims are shared with others.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:53 pm to AlaTiger
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actual consensus
consensus
they have more than anyone else... maybe consensus there
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:06 pm to ohiovol
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I really think the 1941 title is the cause for much ridicule
True. In 1941 MSU won the SEC Championship and also went undefeated in the SEC that year, beating Bama at Bama 14-0. Yet the delusional Bammers claim that year's National Championship. What a joke.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:08 pm to AlaTiger
8 AP and UPI titles
4 claimed for 10-0 Rose Bowl Champ seasons pre wire polls
1 bogusly claimed
1 only team left undefeated season not claimed
4 claimed for 10-0 Rose Bowl Champ seasons pre wire polls
1 bogusly claimed
1 only team left undefeated season not claimed
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:18 pm to Alahunter
:nb4wecouldclaim 27:
So rose bowl wins counted as NC's
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4 claimed for 10-0 Rose Bowl Champ seasons pre wire polls
So rose bowl wins counted as NC's
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:18 pm to Alahunter
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1 only team left undefeated season not claimed
Bryant said that was the best team he'd ever coached, but that's just the way it was back pre-BCS. If you won both or either AP/UPI polls, you claimed a title.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:22 pm to AlaTiger
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(winning the bowl game after being declared #1 would be one thing I would look at).
That's not the way it worked at the time. So deal with it.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:25 pm to AlaTiger
8 AP titles which s generally accepted without scrutiny or atleast a reasonable amount. 13 is rediculous IMO.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:25 pm to AlaTiger
listen fellas.. this is how normal adult sports fans deal with bragging rights about titles: it only counts if you were alive when said championship was won. so take whatever you think the average age of the SECr/TD (24 I would guess?) and whatever someone's respective team has won during that time span is the only legitimate title one can be a braggart about.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:26 pm to AlaTiger
The math is much too complicated for this site. We'd need to send this one to the boys on The Big Bang Theory.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:30 pm to NYCAuburn
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So rose bowl wins counted as NC's
Back in the 20's and 30's, writers felt so, declaring the winner National Champions.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:35 pm to Alahunter
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Back in the 20's and 30's, writers felt so, declaring the winner National Champions.
So the NC's in the 20's or 30's were either a PAC team or whoever they played?
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:36 pm to dkreller
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How can you even begin to think this? Were you alive to watch the games?
I'm a student at Alabama and in my spare time I go to the Bryant Museum to do research on past seasons. A year or so ago I did research on 1945 Alabama and, statistically speaking, that's probably the best team Alabama has ever fielded. It was led by QB Harry Gilmer, the QB who *invented* the jump pass many, many years before Tebow was born. That kid could do it all.
Toward the end of the year, when it became apparent who the best teams were (Army and Alabama) the media was really putting the pressure on Army to meet Alabama in the Sugar Bowl so they could decide once and for all who the best team was. Alabama, who had an invitation from both the Sugar Bowl and the Rose Bowl, was waiting to see what Army would do. When Army announced they weren't going bowling that year, Alabama accepted the Rose Bowl invitation and destroyed Southern Cal in Pasadena.
Army won the national title that year, Navy (at 7-1-1) finished #2, while Alabama (10-0) was ranked #3 in the final AP poll. Considering the year was 1945 and the war had just ended, it's pretty obvious why the media voted Army #1 and Navy #2.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:36 pm to Rohan2Reed
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it only counts if you were alive when said championship was won.
Fans of teams with little or no history would probably agree with you. LSU revisionist history blah blah modern CFB blah blah crystal balls since BCS blah blah doesn't erase Bama's history, which is pretty fricking spectacular.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:39 pm to arlo
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doesn't erase Bama's history
who said it did?
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:51 pm to arlo
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Bryant said that was the best team he'd ever coached, but that's just the way it was back pre-BCS. If you won both or either AP/UPI polls, you claimed a title.
Maybe best all-white team he ever coached?
This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 1:53 pm
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