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re: Can the best High School teams beat/hold their own against the worst College Teams?
Posted on 1/28/21 at 7:52 pm to NYCAuburn
Posted on 1/28/21 at 7:52 pm to NYCAuburn
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Img is on a different level talent wise from those but don’t have the cohesiveness like those ga schools with many players having been together for years
Don't think the talent disparity is on a different "level" (Marietta had 3 top 150's) but IMG certainly has more blue chips.
BTW,HS FB in Georgia is now getting on the same level as basketball in regards to transfers and kids playing at schools that aren't even close to where they live.Its Lots of mercenaries and "advisers" who place them at certain schools.
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 7:54 pm to skrayper
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If not, what division would they start winning against lower tier teams?
Probably none?
Buddy I was 5’7 190 pounds and started for a large high school that made it to the semifinals of the playoffs in Alabama. And I wasn’t a skill player.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:06 pm to skrayper
The difference in development of a high school senior and a sr college football player is noticeable
It’s one reason a team like byu is competitive in college landscape with their older players after serving their Mormon missions
It’s one reason a team like byu is competitive in college landscape with their older players after serving their Mormon missions
Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:27 pm to StringedInstruments
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Probably none?
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Buddy I was 5’7 190 pounds and started for a large high school that made it to the semifinals of the playoffs in Alabama. And I wasn’t a skill player
Once again he said "top HS teams" which means nationally ranked teams and your semi final Alabama HS team doesn't exactly qualify as one of those teams.
Highly doubt you woulda cracked the two deep at a place like IMG,Grayson,Miami Central or Westside.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:34 pm to skrayper
The age difference is the major problem but not the talent
Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:52 pm to tomato patch
Dude’s in here are seriously underestimating the skills of college athletes at every level.
Could one maybe find one weak team to put against an Img? Yeah, there are thousands of schools out there the sheer numbers would say that a really weak D3 might lose to an img type team. But, it’s not happening on the regular.
Could one maybe find one weak team to put against an Img? Yeah, there are thousands of schools out there the sheer numbers would say that a really weak D3 might lose to an img type team. But, it’s not happening on the regular.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:01 pm to RD Dawg
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Don't think the talent disparity is on a different "level" (Marietta had 3 top 150's) but IMG certainly has more blue chips.
Across the entire team it most certainly is different.
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TW,HS FB in Georgia is now getting on the same level as basketball in regards to transfers and kids playing at schools that aren't even close to where they live.Its Lots of mercenaries and "advisers" who place them at certain schools.
I live in Georgia and am aware buts it’s still “illegal” and the mercenaries are just a few. Img is the whole team for the most part.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:03 pm to LovetheLord
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that a really weak D3 might lose to an img type team. But, it’s not happening on the regular.
Uh d3 teams just do not have talent. These are players who couldn’t even get scholarships at sub par fcs schools or simply use football as a recreational sport. It’s on par with club teams at schools in the sec.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:15 pm to skrayper
The reason I say YES is because some offenses just flow. They can move the ball against anyone. If they were out sized they would adjust and throw quicker routes.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:49 pm to NYCAuburn
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Across the entire team it most certainly is different.
Someone posted their senior P5 scholarships from this past year and the number was around 14 and I know Marietta had more last year but not sure about Grayson.I imagine IMG had more blue chips and a deeper roster.
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live in Georgia and am aware buts it’s still “illegal” and the mercenaries are just a few
But it's not "illegal" within the same county.You just need permission from the parents and agree to provide your own transportation. More than have the P5 kids that went to Marietta last lived no where near the school. Same with Grayaon.Im sure your aware that their QB (Garcia) played at Valdosta,was declared ineligible and then hooked on with Grayson and was declared eligible.
Its pretty much the wild west.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:29 pm to skrayper
Division III yes, Division II probably not, Division I, no
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:23 pm to StringedInstruments
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Probably none? Buddy I was 5’7 190 pounds and started for a large high school that made it to the semifinals of the playoffs in Alabama. And I wasn’t a skill player.
Punter? Kicker? Fullback? Has to be one of these
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:36 pm to RD Dawg
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I think the Ivies are on par with the rest of FCS schools.Too bad they aren't allowed to go to the playoffs so we can see if they are.
Aren't allowed? They don't participate by their own choice. In addition, they only play 10 games...by choice. Ivy League schools can start playing 12 games any time they want.
Columbia is one of, if not the worst football program at any level of the NCAA year after year, and year in and year out there are no doubt multiple HS teams in the country that are loaded with D-1 talent that would beat them easily.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:50 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Aren't allowed? They don't participate by their own choice
It's not the choice of the players or coaches and by "not allowed" I meant administration and league.
My brother is a Penn alumnus and all of his teammates thought the league rule was idiotic and still want it changed.
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are no doubt multiple HS teams in the country that are loaded with D-1 talent that would beat them easily.
There aren't "multiple" but maybe about 10 to 15.
ETA They actually went 8-2 a couple of years ago...not near as bad as they were 5+ years ago.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 1/29/21 at 5:31 am to skrayper
High classifications in TX, GA, FL etc....Yes. The rest of yall's high schools NO.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 5:41 am to skrayper
The best HS team in Texas can't beat Kilgore College. Much less Prairie View. It would be a slaughter.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 6:29 am to RD Dawg
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There aren't "multiple" but maybe about 10 to 15.
I'll bet your brother with his Ivy League education at least knows the definition of "multiple".Posted on 1/29/21 at 8:48 am to BamaGradinTn
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bet your brother with his Ivy League education at least knows the definition of "multiple
10 to 15 teams out of 15,000 HS FB teams are "multiple?"
Dude, you couldn't even comprehend what I said about their rule forbidding teams going to the FCS playoffs and then had no idea about what you were saying about Columbia (16-14 over the last 3 years)
Posted on 1/29/21 at 9:59 am to Reservoir dawg
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Division III yes, Division II probably not, Division I, no
This is probably accurate. Maybe IMG could compete with a lower level community college. On last chance U you had guys like Bobby Bruce 190 lbs playing linebacker. But that school still would’ve smoked IMG with Malik Henry at qb and 6’ receivers who run a 4.3
Would have to be the worst of the worst community college.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 10:59 am to RD Dawg
I still say no way unless you're talking about D3 or something which I don't think was the question. 16-17 kids are just not as physically mature as 20-21 year olds even if they are considered elite for their age.
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