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Can someone please explain why pods are needed?
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:53 am
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:53 am
Just give everyone 3 or 4 permanent opponents and rotate the rest. They don’t have to be in a pod. Georgia’s 3 permanent opponents could be Florida, Auburn, and Tennessee. Doesn’t mean they have to be in a pod. Tennessee’s opponents could be Georgia, Alabama, and Vandy.
Seriously? What’s the point when you can just pick and choose permanent matchups? Why restrict it to 4 teams?
Seriously? What’s the point when you can just pick and choose permanent matchups? Why restrict it to 4 teams?
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:55 am to diddlydawg7
If you're only going to have 3 permanent opponents and rotate everyone else, that's an argument for a pod system. It makes no sense to be in the same division as other teams and not play everyone in your division.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:55 am to diddlydawg7
Isn’t that effectively pods? Not really much of a difference except adding structure to how you schedule outside your pod (or 3 permanent rivals).
The first question to settle is simply whether divisions still makes sense. That’s the simplest solution, though I’m not married to it. Does anyone care about being a division champion?
The first question to settle is simply whether divisions still makes sense. That’s the simplest solution, though I’m not married to it. Does anyone care about being a division champion?
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:56 am to diddlydawg7
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Just give everyone 3 or 4 permanent opponents and rotate the rest. They don’t have to be in a pod.
That’s literally the purpose of the pod.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:56 am to diddlydawg7
Pods give you a home and away with every team every 4 years, personally I like the sound of that.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:57 am to diddlydawg7
I think you can scrap pods, have no divisions, assign 4 permanents and play 5 rotational games.......if you decide to also scrap the Conference Championship games (which they won't do).
If you are keeping the conference title game, you have to come to some sort of "divisional" setup - whether it be 2 of them or 4 of them. And you can't have "divisions" where everyone doesn't play everyone.
If you are keeping the conference title game, you have to come to some sort of "divisional" setup - whether it be 2 of them or 4 of them. And you can't have "divisions" where everyone doesn't play everyone.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:00 am to BigB123
quote:Some programs care and they hang banners that shite like it's some grand achievement.
Does anyone care about being a division champion?
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:00 am to SummerOfGeorge
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If you are keeping the conference title game, you have to come to some sort of "divisional" setup - whether it be 2 of them or 4 of them. And you can't have "divisions" where everyone doesn't play everyone.
I honestly don't know how you keep the SEC CG and have more than 2 divisions. How do you determine which 2 teams get to play in it with 4 divisions/pods? How do you even configure tie-breakers when common opponents may be few and far between?
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:00 am to BigB123
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Does anyone care about being a division champion?
If you play in the SEC CG, that's a big deal to most people
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:02 am to lsufball19
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I honestly don't know how you keep the SEC CG and have more than 2 divisions. How do you determine which 2 teams get to play in it with 4 divisions/pods? How do you even configure tie-breakers when common opponents may be few and far between?
I truly don't either. In a perfect world they scrap the championship game. It would just make sense with 9 games, more rotational games, the playoff expansion, etc.
But we all know they aren't going to do that, so how do they get around it all? The 4 pod winner semifinal sounds ok in theory, but then you realize its ANOTHER game in addition to additional playoff games. Maybe the league drops a regular season game to do it, I dunno.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:04 am to BigB123
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Isn’t that effectively pods?
No.
Pods restrict your options.
Instead of trying to fit everyone into pods that make sense, why not just pick the best matchups. Why should everyone in a pod have to play each other when there are matchups outside that pod that make more sense.
Kentucky’s could be
Florida
Tennessee
South Carolina
Vanderbilt
With the pod system, Tennessee would have to play the same teams as everyone else in their pod. Why not pick and choose?
Tennessee’s could be:
Alabama
Georgia
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
How is that not better than restricting matchups with pods?
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:06 am to diddlydawg7
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With the pod system, Tennessee would have to play the same teams as everyone else in their pod.
No they wouldn't. The pods would be playing everyone in your pod, having maybe one permanent team outside your pods to account for rivalries, and then rotating everyone else. Basically what we have now but rotating more non-permanent teams. The only static matchups would be against the 3 other teams within your pod.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:10 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I think you can scrap pods, have no divisions, assign 4 permanents and play 5 rotational games.......
So exactly what I said. Crazy people can’t understand how this is different than Pods. Under the SECN proposal:
Alabama
Auburn
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Nobody needs to see Auburn play Vandy every single year. Pick 4 matchups that make sense. Might have to sacrifice to keep things fair but if we want to preserve rivalries, pods are the worst way to go.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:13 am to lsufball19
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The only static matchups would be against the 3 other teams within your pod.
That’s exactly what I’m saying. And it sucks. Scrap divisions, scrap pods. Do you understand that pods just throw up unnecessary roadblocks when trying to preserve rivalries?
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:14 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I truly don't either. In a perfect world they scrap the championship game. It would just make sense with 9 games, more rotational games, the playoff expansion, etc.
Obviously they will never kill a cash cow, but I would love it if all conferences did this and used that first weekend in December as an extra round to the CFP. It would put greater importance on the regular season and likely result in more SEC teams in the CFP.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:15 am to diddlydawg7
Because you can't just have people...
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:18 am to diddlydawg7
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Just give everyone 3 or 4 permanent opponents
Right? Give Alabama Tennessee, Vandy, and Kentucky and call it good
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:18 am to Basura Blanco
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Obviously they will never kill a cash cow, but I would love it if all conferences did this and used that first weekend in December as an extra round to the CFP. It would put greater importance on the regular season and likely result in more SEC teams in the CFP.
Agree - if you play 9 or 10 conference games and they are spread out around the league.......crowning a conference champ based on your regular season is pretty reasonable. Will you have some funky years where tie-breakers are needed? Probably.
I love the conference title game, but with the addition of another playoff game and the league situation now.......I'd be fine retiring it. But it won't happen because of money.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:18 am to diddlydawg7
Without a pods/4 team divisions, you rarely get to see teams across the conference. Try to sell LSU, State & Ole Miss on being the only charter members in a division with former big12 members & Arkansas. That shite ain’t happening. At least in 4 team pods you keep current matchups and see everyone else in a 2 year frame.
LSU would lose annual matchups with Bama, Auburn and Florida but we’d get each of them every two years. This is all going to end up being similar to NFL divisions.
LSU would lose annual matchups with Bama, Auburn and Florida but we’d get each of them every two years. This is all going to end up being similar to NFL divisions.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 11:19 am
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:18 am to hg
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Right? Give Alabama Tennessee, Vandy, and Kentucky and call it good
No, give Alabama Auburn, Tennessee, State and LSU.
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