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re: Can someone explain to me how Bama got a 1st down at the 5 yd line
Posted on 11/10/14 at 5:48 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 11/10/14 at 5:48 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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What the F does that prove? One shot he's moving and the ball had not been snapped and the next the ball is being snapped and he's totally set.
The ball has been snapped in the first image. He is not set. If you don't believe me take a closer look. That's literally 1/20th of a second after the previous picture.
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 5:51 pm
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 5:50 pm to bmy
Bull freaking crap the ball was snapped. It's 100% still on the ground with our centers white taped wrist showing still holding the ball on the ground.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 5:52 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Bull freaking crap the ball was snapped. It's 100% still on the ground with our centers white taped wrist showing still holding the ball on the ground.
See above. The ball was snapped, evidenced by Henry continuing to enter his stance that he has to maintain for ~1 second pre-snap. Except that the ball has already been set.. which is why it should have been flagged. As I said before -- he did not come set for even a moment post-shift/pre-snap
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 11/10/14 at 5:53 pm to bmy
My gosh this is next level pathetic.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 5:54 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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My gosh this is next level pathetic.
Just admit that he wasn't set. It's not hard. It's fricking obvious. It doesn't change the outcome of the game. It does reinforce the idea that the refs fricked the game up, though. Miles mentioned 25 different plays that he sent in for review. It's not hard.. "the play should have been flagged because of an illegal shift".
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 11/10/14 at 5:58 pm to Old Sarge
Football 101, would not expect you guys to know it. But please try.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 5:59 pm to bmy
You had to use literal 1/20 of a second review and it is still hard to totally tell he length of him being set as the ball is being snapped. The idea that a human referee is going to (a) physically be able to and (b) actually make that call is just not fair.
My guess is you could find 25-30 additional penalties as well.
4 by LSU (1 or 2 that significantly altered the game) are noted, with photo evidence, above.
This whole dog and pony show is just so utterly ridiculous, that is the overall point of this.
My guess is you could find 25-30 additional penalties as well.
4 by LSU (1 or 2 that significantly altered the game) are noted, with photo evidence, above.
This whole dog and pony show is just so utterly ridiculous, that is the overall point of this.
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:01 pm to bmy
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:03 pm to bmy
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bmy
I'll be home in December. Remind me to meet you at Sonic and beat your arse
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:04 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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You had to use literal 1/20 of a second review and it is still hard to totally tell he length of him being set as the ball is being snapped. The idea that a human referee is going to (a) physically be able to and (b) actually make that call is just not fair.
I only created the picture because it illustrated the obvious missed call. The ball is halfway to the QB while Henry is becoming set. By rule, all 11 players must be set for a full second. The ruling on the field should have been an illegal shift. It simply wasn't called. There isn't a grey area here because it is not subjective.
1) Was there a shift pre-snap? Yes
2) Did all 11 players become set post-shift and pre-snap for a full second? No
3) Throw flag. It's pretty fricking simple.
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:05 pm to BamaChick
he's skinny 
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:05 pm to bamaboy87
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I'll be home in December. Remind me to meet you at Sonic and beat your arse
I got out of that shithole state man. Why would you want to go back home? Make the rents go see you 
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:06 pm to bmy
It's not subjective? A human having to figure out whether a guy was set as he is moving and the snap is moving and he is setting simultaneously or right after with a literal 1 second window isn't subjective?
Yea, disagree.
Yea, disagree.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:10 pm to bmy
Can someone please show me the fricking ball?
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:11 pm to jatebe
It's been snapped but hasn't cleared the centers rear-end. Henry is still clearly not set.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:11 pm to BamaChick
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BamaChick
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:12 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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It's not subjective? A human having to figure out whether a guy was set as he is moving and the snap is moving and he is setting simultaneously or right after with a literal 1 second window isn't subjective?
It's objective because time is quantifiable and so is movement. You're absolutely right about human error being involved.. because he missed the call.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:15 pm to Old Sarge
the only call i had a problem with was the one on alexander. call offsetting penalties.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:16 pm to bmy
The number of Human cells in your body are quantifiable as well but nobody would argue physically possible for a human without instruments.
Again, the only way to be able to be relatively sure he wasn't set was to take 1/20th second screenshots of the screen.
The idea that a human, during a game, can simultaneously do that and watch the ball snap and then compare those two images in ones brain and determine whether they occurred simultaneously or a second apart is just not possible.
So, at best it's a guess. That's my point.
Again, the only way to be able to be relatively sure he wasn't set was to take 1/20th second screenshots of the screen.
The idea that a human, during a game, can simultaneously do that and watch the ball snap and then compare those two images in ones brain and determine whether they occurred simultaneously or a second apart is just not possible.
So, at best it's a guess. That's my point.
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 6:18 pm
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