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Posted on 11/5/10 at 9:22 pm to Chd1478
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Its over people
Lol you wish. CN may be in the clear, but this is no where close to being over. Either way MSU and the Barn is gonna look bad when its over. Yay!
Posted on 11/5/10 at 10:03 pm to GhostofJackson
Haters gunna hate...
Posted on 11/5/10 at 10:10 pm to BMW7SERIES
I couldn't care less about what happens in this case with Cam...but you people at AU do realize it does not matter if AU paid for Cam. If he or anyone associated with him took money from anyone...he is not eligible to play this year...you have to vacate all games that he participated in...0-12...instead of 11-1 (loss in the IB either way).
Long term you have to hope AU is not involved if you are a AU fan...short term you could lose your best season since 2004...just say'n
Long term you have to hope AU is not involved if you are a AU fan...short term you could lose your best season since 2004...just say'n
Posted on 11/5/10 at 10:20 pm to cweathers
This is much ado about nothing. There's no substance to it.
Posted on 11/5/10 at 10:23 pm to BMW7SERIES
it very well may be nothing.
my point was simply that every person on this board seems to think that AU has to be guilty of paying a player to get in trouble.
while that is true in regard to probation in the future...if CAM took money or anyone associated with him took money prior to playing at AU...he is no longer an amateur and AU will need to vacate all games this year that they won. If I was in the fan base I would not bank on the NCAA not finding anything on this kid or his family.
my point was simply that every person on this board seems to think that AU has to be guilty of paying a player to get in trouble.
while that is true in regard to probation in the future...if CAM took money or anyone associated with him took money prior to playing at AU...he is no longer an amateur and AU will need to vacate all games this year that they won. If I was in the fan base I would not bank on the NCAA not finding anything on this kid or his family.
Posted on 11/5/10 at 10:45 pm to cweathers
Well the credibility of the story is gone. Rogers/Bond DID NOT speak to each other. And Rogers has denied any school/booster/alum etc offering money. So there's no credibility.
And I do get what you are trying to suggest, that Rogers is an agent. Well, he has no pro clients and his job functions more of a PR thing to make coaches aware of his clients talents. Basically what that means is that players/parents/HS coaches etc, would pay Rogers to get their player more publicity in the recruiting process. The NCAA has no problem with these services hence, there is no smoke no beef to this story.
And I do get what you are trying to suggest, that Rogers is an agent. Well, he has no pro clients and his job functions more of a PR thing to make coaches aware of his clients talents. Basically what that means is that players/parents/HS coaches etc, would pay Rogers to get their player more publicity in the recruiting process. The NCAA has no problem with these services hence, there is no smoke no beef to this story.
Posted on 11/5/10 at 10:51 pm to BMW7SERIES
trust me I get that this would usually be a non issue...all I am saying is that Rodgers is closely tied (through bank account and office) with a true NFL agent.
that is the unknown...it will just have to play out.
i would say it is less than 50% chance that this thing goes bad for AU...it is just funny to me that so many people miss the fact that if Cam is declared by the NCAA to have lost his amateur status before this year...the entire season is up in smoke...no worries...hope all is well when the IB takes place...that will be a great game and the winner has the inside to the NC game as long as both teams win the games they are supposed to win prior to the IB!
that is the unknown...it will just have to play out.
i would say it is less than 50% chance that this thing goes bad for AU...it is just funny to me that so many people miss the fact that if Cam is declared by the NCAA to have lost his amateur status before this year...the entire season is up in smoke...no worries...hope all is well when the IB takes place...that will be a great game and the winner has the inside to the NC game as long as both teams win the games they are supposed to win prior to the IB!
Posted on 11/5/10 at 10:57 pm to cweathers
Well the NCAA has determined the whole way through that Cam is eligible. Soo, where there's no smoke there's no fire.
Now, if you are going to assert that Rogers has already had NFL agents be in contact with Cam, who knows. That's not at issue here though. And that could go for any player in the country. Stop trying to get ahead of yourself.
Now, if you are going to assert that Rogers has already had NFL agents be in contact with Cam, who knows. That's not at issue here though. And that could go for any player in the country. Stop trying to get ahead of yourself.
Posted on 11/5/10 at 11:12 pm to BMW7SERIES
no worries...as i said, it will all play out. i personally hope it turns out to be nothing...if bama can win the iron bowl, i want it to be against auburn at full speed
Posted on 11/6/10 at 1:22 am to cweathers
1) Rev Newton's church was condemned, yet saved finally, just last month after a sudden influx of funds, which when asked about the source, the Rev said "I'm not going to get into something like that"
2) Rogers was "helping" to place Cam, only to claim he never had any contact with the school that Cam eventually went to. WTF? How does that work exactly?
3) Look no further than the Tuberville situation to confirm that Auburn trustees will most certainly deal in an under-the-cover manner to get what they want (Petrino)
2) Rogers was "helping" to place Cam, only to claim he never had any contact with the school that Cam eventually went to. WTF? How does that work exactly?
3) Look no further than the Tuberville situation to confirm that Auburn trustees will most certainly deal in an under-the-cover manner to get what they want (Petrino)
Posted on 11/6/10 at 3:20 am to RobbBobb
So basically to this point and time, here is what is being reported:
1) Rogers is claimed to have solicited Bond for $180,000 to secure Newton's commitment, which is a discount from the $200,000 offered by other schools.
2) Bond immediately reports this to the AD who in turn reports it to the SEC which seems to do absolutely nothing on it. It was reported by Bond and MSU to them before Cam signed anywhere.
3) It was more recently (last few months) reported to the NCAA, because they would have not waiting 3 months to request financial statements.
4) Cecil Newton's church is about to be condemned and they have no money to fix it up and bring it to code. Magically, in the spring following Cam signing with Auburn, the church magically gets the funding to be brought up to code.
5) Auburn University claims it was no way involved with Rogers with regards to Newton, which is likely true. That doesn't mean a booster for Auburn wasn't. Plain and simple.
6) Rogers is proven to be a sleezeball and is under investigation by the NFLPA.
7)Cam admitted just last week on television that his father played the major role in deciding where he went to college this time.
8) Meyer recently pushed Bond to come forward with his information, but Mullen's said to just let it go.
9) The Newton's have a pre-existing relationship with Rogers. They met during Cam's initial recruitment out of highschool
10) Auburn didn't have to pay Cam or his dad to get effed up in this. Playing a player that was ineligible will still result in the likely vacating of the wins said player was involved in.
1) Rogers is claimed to have solicited Bond for $180,000 to secure Newton's commitment, which is a discount from the $200,000 offered by other schools.
2) Bond immediately reports this to the AD who in turn reports it to the SEC which seems to do absolutely nothing on it. It was reported by Bond and MSU to them before Cam signed anywhere.
3) It was more recently (last few months) reported to the NCAA, because they would have not waiting 3 months to request financial statements.
4) Cecil Newton's church is about to be condemned and they have no money to fix it up and bring it to code. Magically, in the spring following Cam signing with Auburn, the church magically gets the funding to be brought up to code.
5) Auburn University claims it was no way involved with Rogers with regards to Newton, which is likely true. That doesn't mean a booster for Auburn wasn't. Plain and simple.
6) Rogers is proven to be a sleezeball and is under investigation by the NFLPA.
7)Cam admitted just last week on television that his father played the major role in deciding where he went to college this time.
8) Meyer recently pushed Bond to come forward with his information, but Mullen's said to just let it go.
9) The Newton's have a pre-existing relationship with Rogers. They met during Cam's initial recruitment out of highschool
10) Auburn didn't have to pay Cam or his dad to get effed up in this. Playing a player that was ineligible will still result in the likely vacating of the wins said player was involved in.
Posted on 11/6/10 at 3:43 am to RobbBobb
I agree. Auburn, Bama and the state of Alabama in general are corrupt and dirty as hell. And they like to laugh at the corruption in Louisiana.
Posted on 11/6/10 at 7:36 am to genuineLSUtiger
Auburn Rivals Article
Kind of outline a few points, it's not premium. It also makes mention that nobody inside Auburn's athletic program is worried about this, albeit they are very angry and the media outlash.
Kind of outline a few points, it's not premium. It also makes mention that nobody inside Auburn's athletic program is worried about this, albeit they are very angry and the media outlash.
Posted on 11/6/10 at 7:36 am to genuineLSUtiger
There is plenty of smoke...every player is eligible rightnup until the momment he is disqualified.
Posted on 11/6/10 at 8:02 am to zeebo
There is no smoke. Smoke cleared as soon as all the media publications backtracked from an obviously fabricated story and then whence the two major players of the story began to deny any conversation between them took place. It's done.Posted on 11/6/10 at 8:49 am to BMW7SERIES
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this is much ado about nothing. there's no substance to it.
if father newton would be candid with where his church got their money, it would end in a heartbeat. since he apparantly is acting in bad faith, it will live and maybe grow. he has the power to stop this. he knows where that money came from and if it was honest, it could easily be proved. people write checks to non-profits for the tax deduction. they DO NOT GIVE CASH. the IRS stopped that a few years ago. it is also a REQUIREMENT that the church give any donar over a certain limit (i think it $250 or close) a statement IN WRITING acknowledging the donation and that is the basis for the tax deduction. my chuch gives me one every year and they started doing it when the IRS required it. so, you can bury your head in the sand all you want to, but mr. newton is at fault for what is or might happen to auburn university. ya'll should be demanding him to be accountable.
Posted on 11/6/10 at 8:58 am to LSU GrandDad
Posted on 11/6/10 at 9:04 am to BMW7SERIES
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There is no smoke.
Plenty of smoke.
On 3 separate occasions remodeling was done on a church that hasn't been registered with the state since 2008.
The state estimated that $50,000 would be needed to bring the building up to code. It was taken off the condemned list last month; 4 games into the season.
Eyewitnesses from nearby businesses say they never see anyone there. So there can't be a congregation raising these funds.
The father refuses to comment on where he could have gotten the $50,000 to remodel, or about any personal living expenses during this time, since its appears that he has no tithe paying members
And both Newton and Rodgers claim that Kenny was helping Cam find a college, yet now claim that Kenny never talked to anyone associated with the univ. that Cam eventually went to? Really? You're buying that?
Posted on 11/6/10 at 9:12 am to RobbBobb
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