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re: By the logic of some here…shouldn’t Penix win the Heisman?

Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:37 pm to
Oh boy. This is sad.
Posted by countrytiger60
Larose
Member since Sep 2018
4009 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:40 pm to
the ballots are all in, Daniels will be announced the winner. and it wasn't close.
Posted by MajorSelector
Member since Jan 2023
17 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:42 pm to
he had the flu bro
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
31032 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:50 pm to
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Daniels will finish 3rd where he should


It’s over. Look at the Vegas odds. They don’t get it wrong when he’s 1500 favorite
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19269 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:50 pm to
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Who was the last Heisman winner from a 3+ loss team?


Lamar Jackson, 2016
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61671 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:52 pm to
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Which everybody saw throw for 55 yards against Florida. It won’t matter.

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Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19269 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:54 pm to
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Which everybody saw throw for 55 yards against Florida.


Nope

Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
31032 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:54 pm to
Caleb Williams lost three but one was the bowl game

Then you have Lamar Jackson , Tim Tebow, and rg3

The only thing to say about Jayden is that he set the record for qb rating in a season and qbr in a season against the tenth ranked sos and then rushed for 1100 yards at over 8 yards per carry on top of it.

Look at his passer rating and qbr in comparison to nix and penix and then look at rushing.

The odds aren’t close

It’s over, no reason to even discuss who will win
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15523 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:55 pm to
LSU fans have been resoundingly clear that only wins and losses count. Quality of competition can not be considered. They have to support Penix. They can’t in good faith support Jayden Daniels. It is a shame too because Jayden Daniels has given a lot to the LSU fanbase. But principles are principles.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19269 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:57 pm to
Again, how many examples of a 3 loss Heisman winner have we had?

How many examples of an undefeated P5 conference champion being left out of the playoff?

They aren’t the same, and it’s stupid to argue they are.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15523 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:25 pm to
I feel so bad for Jayden Daniels. Even if he does win the Heisman, he will have to spend the rest of his life hearing how it was tainted. Hearing how it was illegitimate. And that is from his own fans. It is a shame.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44231 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:34 pm to
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No they didn't, they played the weakest schedule of anyone in contention, and looked absolutely abysmal this weekend when everyone was watching.


That schedule was set years ago

Clemson down
Miami down
UF down
LSU down

You’re fandom is blinding you
Posted by Herodijontiger
Myrtle Beach S.C.
Member since Apr 2021
1205 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:41 pm to
You left out the rushing yards. The other two couldn’t even though a corn field.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44231 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:41 pm to
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But what about the better team between FSU and Bama vs the most “deserving”. I would say the most “deserving” vs the best team should be left out.


ffs

JD has the overwhelmingly best stats

FSU is undefeated
Bama has a loss

It’s not that hard to fathom if you weren’t a Bama fan
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44231 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:47 pm to
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Yes Sir! You get it and it is refreshing.
not really

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The LSU fans want it both ways and in that, they are blind to their dual tracked logic.
we’re not the blind ones
Posted by jamespatterson
Member since Aug 2023
3036 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:48 pm to
Unlike the Heisman, the CFP is supposed to be objective. It's not a beauty contest.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
13262 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:56 pm to
Do you know how fricking retarded you are...?
Your argument makes absolutely no sense...get back in the trailer and shut the door..the flies are following your stench.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 7:56 pm
Posted by Jigsaw60
Member since Oct 2023
617 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:03 pm to
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captdalton

Capt rust bucket, you or either intellectually dishonest or stupid.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19269 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:07 pm to
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he will have to spend the rest of his life hearing how it was tainted. Hearing how it was illegitimate. And that is from his own fans.


Funny I don't hear anyone putting an asterisk next to Tim Tebow's Heisman year, or RG3's, or Johnny Manziel's, or Lamar Jackson's, or Caleb Williams.'

This just looks like more insecurity. Like it's a prayer you have to recite at night to make yourself feel better.

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It is a shame.


That this bothers you so much? I agree.

Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19269 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:08 pm to
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Capt rust bucket, you or either intellectually dishonest or stupid.


Crippingly fragile would be appropriate.
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