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Everyone has always seen the 1941 title as suspect. The new info here is that it was retroactively awarded in 1954. The go-to defense was that *someone* awarded them the national championship, so it's worth recognizing. They knew they were national champions in 1941 so let's claim it. 1954 ...
The Houlgate System was a math rating system distributed in newspapers in the 1930s. It awarded pre-bowl national championships. It also awarded a trophy to the pre-bowl champion, the Foreman & Clark Trophy. (Anyone know where it is today? Stanford, SMU, and LSU had it from 1934–1936.) On Dece...

re: Seminoles should Pull a Trojan

Posted by MajorSelector on 12/4/23 at 6:37 pm
FSU is currently AP No. 4, Alabama AP No. 5. I could [i]maybe[/i] see that AP Poll order holding if FSU wins and Alabama is CFP champion... but the one extra game helps Bama a lot. Didn't have that in 2003. ...

re: Seminoles should Pull a Trojan

Posted by MajorSelector on 12/4/23 at 6:31 pm
USC was No. 1 in BOTH the AP Poll and Coaches Poll prior to the BCS selection. It didn't require any special politicking... the AP voters were themselves motivated to keep USC there at No. 1 when they didn't lose. Coaches might have done the same... but they were contractually obligated to v...

re: It been 84 years

Posted by MajorSelector on 12/4/23 at 1:27 pm
there were multiple polls before the AP Poll [b]Albert Russel Erskine Trophy[/b] > The Albert Russel Erskine [b]Trophy[/b], emblematic of the national football championship as determined by [b]250 sports writers[/b], will be presented to [b]Notre Dame, 1929 winner,[/b] at the Pittsburgh–Notre...

re: Another National Championship

Posted by MajorSelector on 10/29/23 at 9:38 pm
Quick, post rare unclaimed Auburn national championships. 1910 - Auburn - NATIONAL CHAMPIONS - Billingsley Report - NCAA-designated major selector Appears in the 1996-1999 NCAA records book. The original Billingsley Report formula, before he was forced to change it to accommodate the BCS. ...
Not all titles, even if you go with this exceedingly spurious definition of "retroactive". USC was awarded a national championship trophy on the field of the 1932 Rose Bowl. The MacArthur Bowl was directly awarded to the winners of the 1972 Orange Bowl and 1973 Sugar Bowl....
[quote]Eh, anything before the BCS is fair game. They were all mythical.[/quote] This Williamson title is especially mythical in that they didn't even win it :rotflmao: ...
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Here's the NCAA record book's thoughts on the 1940 national championship. Tennessee was apparently chosen by Dunkel and Williamson. [img]https://i.imgur.com/t4oeDKM.png[/img] One of the selectors is the "Williamson System", a mathematical system. It was syndicated in major newspapers. [...
Has anyone mentioned that Alabama's 1941 Houlgate System title was awarded [b][i]retroactively[/i][/b] in 1954?? ...