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re: Brian Kelly's buyout is 62MM

Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15485 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:40 pm to
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Your perception is BK is a bad coach because he hasn't won a NY6 bowl, NY6 bowls don't even matter today.


I have said that Brian Kelly is a good regular season coach.

He just isn’t a great one. Because of his lack of post season success it is easy to say he is a bad post season coach. Part of that is based on his lack of any NY6 bowl wins.

It doesn’t matter whether NY6 bowl games matter today or not. They certainly mattered for most of his career.

You seem to be incapable of admitting that post season success is part of how a coach ls evaluated and remembered.
Posted by Yeah Im Live Cali
Member since Oct 2024
228 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:41 pm to
Aggies still butt hurt they lost the best AD in America. He’s already got 2 national championship hires and Aggies abt like his resume is weak LMFAO. Add McMahon to the list and what BK will do long term and Woody prices he’s a genius.

poor aggies
Posted by DBird
Member since Nov 2023
731 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:43 pm to
He's a great AD, I don't blame him for going back to his alma mater.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15485 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:44 pm to
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I'm talking about a current coach in terms of predicting future success.


The best predictor of an individual’s future performance is past performance.

Based on 22 years of past performance, no one has any reason to believe that Brian Kelly will win a consequential post season game.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14190 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:47 pm to
He'll retire from here. He has 26 wins in 2-1/2 seasons. Not exactly panic time in BR.

Not to mention help is on the way with incoming classes. Getting mocked when you suffer a rare loss is usually a pretty good indication that your program isn't a basement dweller. The Tigers may be down this week- but they'll be ready for the next one up.

But once again- congrats to aTm on a really solid game.
Posted by SEC Doctor
Member since Aug 2024
6638 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:48 pm to
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You seem to be incapable of admitting that post season success is part of how a coach ls evaluated and remembered.


LSU is 2-0 in bowls under Brian Kelly.
Posted by Harry Wong
Member Since Feb 2019
Member since Oct 2024
366 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:48 pm to
Print the cups

Congrats on the win. Let's see if you can keep it going.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

I have said that Brian Kelly is a good regular season coach.

He just isn’t a great one. Because of his lack of post season success it is easy to say he is a bad post season coach. Part of that is based on his lack of any NY6 bowl wins.

It doesn’t matter whether NY6 bowl games matter today or not. They certainly mattered for most of his career.

You seem to be incapable of admitting that post season success is part of how a coach ls evaluated and remembered.


I don't think anyone is saying he is a "great" head coach.

Your argument is muh he didn't win any NY6 bowls or conference championship games, thus he's a bad postseason coach. The conference championship sample size is so small, it's really a dishonest talking point.

Meanwhile, Notre Dame hasn't won a NY6 bowl in 30 years so perhaps that's more of a Notre Dame problem than a BK problem. BK got Notre Dame to a NY6 bowl in his final season there and Freeman choked it away.

It seems folks like you actually try to penalize Kelly for his success.

He brings Cincinnati to their first ever NY6 bowl, muh he lost though.

He brings Notre Dame their only championship game appearance, muh he lost to Nick Saban.

He got a .500 team to the SECCG in his first year, muh he got blown out by Georgia though.

He develops a Heisman winner in year 2 at LSU, muh lost 3 games with a Heisman winner.
Posted by SEC Doctor
Member since Aug 2024
6638 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:53 pm to
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Your argument


I know you are just having fun with these guys, and I do the same thing on occasion. But these trolls are either too dumb or too interested in trolling to see what any reasonable person would see.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
9601 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:58 pm to
When's the last time AU was as good as LSU is right now?
Posted by tigerbait17
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
1262 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:00 pm to
How are you talking trash about LSU when Auburn isn't even close to being relevant??
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34680 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 3:04 pm to
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Doesn't really matter what the fanbase thinks.



That is the truth, LSU couldn't take on the buyout (even if they could afford it) without it turning into a political problem in the state.

Fans have to ride it out for a few more years good or bad.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 3:15 pm to
I don't really understand all of this "fire BK" talk, he hasn't even completed his third year and has won 75% of his games.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34680 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 3:19 pm to
I agree with you there is nothing so show yet that his hire was a mistake or he needs to be bought out.

Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15485 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 3:30 pm to
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It seems folks like you actually try to penalize Kelly for his success.



It is all about expectations. Because he does win a lot of games, I think most people are flabbergasted he can’t ever win the big one. If you are happy with a coach that will go 9-3 most seasons though, you have your guy.

The problem is that most LSU fans predicted LSU to finish somewhere between 12-0 and 10-2 this season. They may finish 10-2 this year, but it will be tough.

So it is clear expectations are higher than 9-3. Every time that Kelly has had a chance to win a big game and change the narrative he has blown it. Again, he is a good coach. But he has been horrible when the lights are brightest on the bigger stages.

For all the success that Kelly has had, and the amount of time he has spent ranked in the top 15 in his career, it is really amazing that he hasn’t managed to win even one big post season game.

When I think of Brian Kelly in the post season. I think about Jalen Carter picking Jayden Daniels up like a toy and Manti Teo and his made believe girlfriend getting run off the field by Alabama.

Regardless of what he does, he will be LSU’s coach for a few more years. Again, he is too successful to fire regardless of buyout. But if he doesn’t make the playoffs this year there will be a lot of unhappy fans.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 3:38 pm to
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But he has been horrible when the lights are brightest on the bigger stages.


Which games specifically are you referring to here?
Posted by lsudave1
Baton Metairie
Member since Jan 2005
9910 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 3:40 pm to
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We need an old TAMU roller coaster meme for LSU.


We need an in-game roller coaster meme for Auburn football where y’all get up by 10 points and then shite the bed in the fourth quarter
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
32919 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 3:40 pm to
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The problem is that most LSU fans predicted LSU to finish somewhere between 12-0 and 10-2 this season. They may finish 10-2 this year, but it will be tough.


Probably need to adjust that to just the 10-2. I dont think any real LSU fans expected to go 12-0 or 11-1.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 3:41 pm to
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We need an in-game roller coaster meme for Auburn football where y’all get up by 10 points and then shite the bed in the fourth quarter


Maybe not that specific situation right this moment, brother.


Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 3:42 pm to
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Probably need to adjust that to just the 10-2. I dont think any real LSU fans expected to go 12-0 or 11-1.


I would have said 9-3 before the season, probably adjust down to 8-4 if I knew Guillory and Perkins would be out for the year.
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