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re: BREAKING Alabama Associate AD took 25k to steer players to Atlanta financial advisor
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:46 pm to Monticello
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:46 pm to Monticello
Correct. I suppose the good news is that the us attorney has made statements about head coaches and universities not being targeted and being victims. I hope that means they don't currently have evidence that Pearl or Avery had knowledge.
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:47 pm to MrAUTigers
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Then Person would not have been charged with defrauding Auburn.
True to some extent. In theory Person's could still commit the fraud against AU without coordination by Pearl or AU, but then if Pearl later found out about the fraud and played the ineligible players anyways, then that would be both fraud by Persons and a massive NCAA issue for Pearl and Auburn.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:52 pm to PearlJam
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Correct. I suppose the good news is that the us attorney has made statements about head coaches and universities not being targeted and being victims. I hope that means they don't currently have evidence that Pearl or Avery had knowledge.
Hopefully so. And I highly doubt that anyone else at AU or UA knew. The assistants were targeted by the agents, and not the HC's because the assistants are easy bribe bait. A 50 or 100k bribe means a lot to someone making low 6 figures. It means nothing to a HC making 3 million a year. And the assistants were doing something that would put them in jail, get them fired, as well as banned from their profession for life. They had every reason to keep this secret from their employers.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:09 pm to PearlJam
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Why wouldn't this apply to Avery and Alabama?
I'm not sure the Bama guy was in Avery's chain of command.
You know what we really need?
A FLOW CHART!
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:10 pm to AU24
Didn't we get this guy right from the NCAA enforcement? NCAA not going to do anything to us over this, makes them look bad
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:11 pm to MrAUTigers
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Then Person would not have been charged with defrauding Auburn.
But remember that the FBI does not care "who knew". They only care about "who did what". The NCAA on the other hand cares "who knew".
Whats being lost with some people is that the FBI does not give a shite about recruiting players. They only care about money at this point and who did what.
The NCAA on the other had will step in after the FBI gives everyone a cavity search and do some prodding of their own.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:20 pm to LanierSpots
Well, the FBI has thoroughly investigated this, Kobie Baker, no indictment, Chuck Person, indicted.
And as you said, the FBI cares about money and who did what.
And as you said, the FBI cares about money and who did what.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:25 pm to LanierSpots
The NCAA is just going to have to request the records from the investigation and read the complaints. The LOIs/NOAs will write themselves
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:28 pm to phaz
They arrested Person in hopes he will cooperate and help the FBI go after the rest. Bama fired the guy because they are trying to distance themselves for when it hits the fan. Will not work this time because the NCAA has their back against the wall.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:29 pm to Tiguar
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The NCAA is just going to have to request the records from the investigation
They won't get anything other than what is on the pubic record.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:32 pm to Tiguar
in one sense the NCAA has no one to blame but themselves. The gravity of this may not have been known publicly but it's been known for a decade or better that severe cheating was going on. Basketball recruiting unlike football recruiting doesn't seem to be as public. IMO it's harder to get away with this type of scandal in football. I might be wrong but as much as they seem to sniff around football you'd think something like this would have been public long ago.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:34 pm to JustGetItRight
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I'm not sure the Bama guy was in Avery's chain of command.
You know what we really need?
A FLOW CHART!
Saban---->Baker---->Johnson
Oh shite, you are right. Avery isn't the one responsible.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:36 pm to phaz
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Well, the FBI has thoroughly investigated this, Kobie Baker,
This isn't true. He only got involved a month ago, no way they fully investigated shite
Took them 7-8 months to get to Person. Michel/Persons being arrested are the best witnesses to flip on Baker
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:37 pm to phaz
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Well, the FBI has thoroughly investigated this, Kobie Baker, no indictment, Chuck Person, indicted.
BS. The FEDS got Person because he was taped getting money then giving it to parents.........because he was tapped.
The bama guy was not tapped, but he was recorded receiving money for parents. Because he was not tapped, the FEDS are trying to figure out if said parents actually received any money.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:38 pm to labamafan
But we’re headed down the same road with football with the Nike camps and Elite Eleven and 7 on 7 tournaments. It’s not much of a stretch to see the same thing going on in football. Shut it down. Shut it down now!
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:39 pm to GenesChin
He got involved in January. Didn't meet with Sexton's dad until a month ago.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:40 pm to JustGetItRight
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I'm not sure the Bama guy was in Avery's chain of command.
You know what we really need?
A FLOW CHART!
I agree with a flow chart, but is it worse that an assistant AD was the one taking money or that an assistant coach was taking money?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:41 pm to phil4bama
Return on investment is much higher for basketball though.
They payback after only 1 year before pros, more accurate projectiom to pro level and NBA players make more money on avg
They payback after only 1 year before pros, more accurate projectiom to pro level and NBA players make more money on avg
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:44 pm to GenesChin
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Return on investment is much higher for basketball though.
This...
Think about what Kobe, Lebron or Jordan's value was to Nike. Spread 500k a year to the right 5 kids and you only have to hit 1 every 20 years or so to make the ROI about 10,000%.
If you think about Cam's UA contract there is no way it has the same ROI as a Basketball contract.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:46 pm to PearlJam
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He got involved in January. Didn't meet with Sexton's dad until a month ago.
According to complaint he first was approached in May. He didn't do anything/get involved until August with Sexton
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