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re: BowlJackson's Top 5 candidates for Auburn football HC in 2023

Posted on 9/19/22 at 7:22 am to
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18189 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 7:22 am to
Tuberville left Ole Miss due to Pete Boone being AD. Boone did not want to spend money at all. I don't blame Tuberville for leaving. This is not the same Ole Miss. Keith Carter is not Pete Boone and Kiffin is not Tuberville. He's already one of the highest paid coaches in the nation and is 4th highest in the SEC. Auburn is currently a dumpster fire.

What are the benefits of Auburn over Ole Miss for Kiffin? None.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19316 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 7:43 am to
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Deion Sanders
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He is a name and a personality that can control the boosters and the money, and not the other way around

Posted by Rebel920
Member since Jul 2020
98 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 7:56 am to
Hugh did a lot of good things at ole miss and I will always appreciate him for that. But there are issues there. I think he’s good at running a program, not elite. He can be an elite recruiter but my understanding is that there’s some things out there that haven’t been made public that will kill him on the recruiting trail and at the end of his time he missed on a lot of guys and completely ignored key positions. I think he’s a below average coach on game day. He’s stubborn and makes some bad decisions. I saw someone say he won 65 percent of his games at ole miss and the next coach only like 45 percent. That’s true but make no mistake Hugh had a pretty big hand in creating the situation where the next coach couldn’t win. He left the program in shambles and that historically bad defense those years was because of his inability to recruit the defensive side of the ball. His punishment should not have been a show cause and being fired, he should have been forced to coach those teams and take those losses. Matt Luke was not a good coach but the program was left in shambles by Hugh. I think it would be a risky hire. If it pays off it pays off big but I think there’s more of a chance it ends in disaster.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17506 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:07 am to
You obviously only pay attention to recent history. I suggest you actually become a student of the game son. And yes only 1 NC in the last several decades. You can’t claim one when you were on fricking probation for cheating……Dear God are you really that desperate?

And since you are a fan of history let’s look at what exactly has happened to your recent coaches:

Harsin – was an up and coming coach. Now, 13 games later his career options are likely to be limited due mainly to booster meddling in his program.

Steele – only coached one game as interim coach but was considered for the HC job – now the DC at Miami.

Malzahn – booted out despite a .660 winning percentage. Now at UCF.

Chizik – survived four years and was booted despite winning a national championship and having a .635 winning percentage. Has not been a head coach since.

Tuberville – survived from 99 thru 08 and was booted despite having a .680 winning percentage and an undefeated season under his belt. Moved on to Texas Tech and Cincinnati afterwards but his coaching career never really recovered.

Oliver – coached 5 games in an interim position and then retired

Bowden – had a .731 winning percentage at Auburn but had to resign in the middle of the 1998 season. Went on to coach at North Alabama, Akron, and ULM afterwards.

Dye – had a .707 winning percentage at Auburn. The field is named after him. Was booted after the 1992 season and never coached again.

If I were a head coach with a bright career in front of me then there is no way I would add my name to this list.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 8:12 am
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17506 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:10 am to
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What are the benefits of Auburn over Ole Miss for Kiffin? None.


Preach Brother…..but we have delusional Auburn fans praying for a savior. It ain’t happening and it is all there own doing
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:19 am to
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Most don't even know what conference you are in.


Wow, what a take
Posted by Hawgleg
Member since Jan 2022
131 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:19 am to
As long as its not Bobby Petrino i dont care who they hire
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:31 am to
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What are the benefits of Auburn over Ole Miss for Kiffin?


Literally the only benefit to staying to staying at Ole Miss would be him already having gotten started there, and lower expectations. If he wants a higher ceiling at a school that’s actually capable of competing for a National championship then dumping Ole Miss for Auburn would be an easy choice. Assuming he would even get an offer from Auburn at all, that is, he’s only midway down our list
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21413 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:33 am to
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You can’t claim one when you were on fricking probation for cheating


Does Alabama claim theirs when they were on probation for cheating?
Posted by NaturalStateReb
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2012
1443 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:35 am to
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1. Deion Sanders, Jackson State
- would be a publicity and recruiting home run. Auburn would instantly be back in the top 10 in recruiting. He is a name and a personality that can control the boosters and the money, and not the other way around

2. Dave Aranda, Baylor
- probably the best from an actual coaching standpoint and highest potential for building long term success

3. Lane Kiffin, Ole Miss
- would be a good solid hire that would immediately restore Auburn to recruiting relevancy, but the ceiling isn't as high as the top 2 and he's probably less likely to leave his current school as well.

4. Mark Stoops, Kentucky
- his resume at Kentucky on the field and on the recruiting trail speaks for itself. He learned at the feet of some GOATs Hayden Fry, Bill Snyder, and Big Bro Bob

5. Jeff Grimes, OC Baylor
- if there's one thing that having Jeff Grimes will guarantee, it's a top tier OL and a good running game. At the very least he's our Sam Pittman and takes us back to fundamental, well coached old school football



Maybe the Baylor OC takes the gig, but those other guys aren't taking the job. Why on earth would they?
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21413 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:35 am to
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So what that you had 1 good team in the last 3 decades


You are either young, or mentally retarded. Or maybe you are just a fricking troll.
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
3012 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:40 am to
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Maybe the Baylor OC takes the gig, but those other guys aren't taking the job. Why on earth would they?


None are cultural fits
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:41 am to
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Malzahn – .660 winning percentage


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Chizik – national championship and .635 winning percentage.


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Tuberville – survived from 99 thru 08 and was booted despite having a .680 winning percentage and an undefeated season


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Bowden – had a .731 winning percentage


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Dye – had a .707 winning percentage at Auburn



Thank you so much for doing all that work to prove how much of a better job Auburn is than Ole Miss. All of those coaches except for Dye ranged from painfully mediocre to bumbling idiots and every single one of them still managed to stumble to much better winning percentages than Ole Miss has in your storied history

Imagine what a real coach could do with Auburn’s resources
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
3012 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:43 am to
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Imagine what a real coach could do with Auburn’s resources


Put things in perspective, this Auburn you’re talking about.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17506 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:44 am to
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Does Alabama claim theirs when they were on probation for cheating?


I don’t know and don’t care…..I am not an Alabama fan…and this statement may be the biggest Little Brother Syndrome give away I have ever seen! Have some pride would you…..I thought Auburn is some Mecca of College Football FFS.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21413 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:47 am to
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I don’t know and don’t care


I expect to see you going after Bama fans for claiming 2009 when they were on probation. At least be consistent.

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.I thought Auburn is some Mecca of College Football FFS.

Go away troll. Your shite program suffered a loss at the hands of Bryan fricking Harsin. 'Nuff said.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17506 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:50 am to
You are a Mecca of College Football. So good they make movies about you all.

LINK
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21413 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:51 am to
Hey at least you got the Blind Side, right?
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:52 am to
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And since you are a fan of history let’s look at what exactly has happened to your recent coaches:


Now Let's do Bama,,,, You could do any school and get similar results.

Ray Perkins (Great Record), fired... (1983-86)

Bill Curry (Last man picked in the NFL Draft), fired because he could not beat Auburn, went to UK. (1989)

Gene Stallings Won a Nattie, but got fired for NCAA troubles.(1996)

Mike Dubose (Affair with Secretary, OK, keep him), lose to Auburn, fired after 4 years even after being SEC coach of the year in 1999. (2000)

Dennis Francionne (.680) Made it two years (2002)

Mike Price (Never Coached) It was his Destiny (2003)

Mike Shula (Great Man, should have been retained)(2006)

Joe Kines (1 game) should have been the permanent Coach. (2006)

You finally got a winner in Saban, lots of schools go through lots of coaches. Probable retire in 2031 after 25 years.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17506 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:53 am to
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I expect to see you going after Bama fans for claiming 2009 when they were on probation. At least be consistent.


I don’t know because I have never gotten into a debate with a Bama fan if the said “our program is better”…..Want to know why? Because they are…..Auburn is not. You are talking about firing your HC mid season after he has been there approximately 1 year…….what part of that says you are a relevant program?
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