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re: BOOM! WSU's Response To Players That Support PAC-12 Player's Demands
Posted on 8/3/20 at 12:48 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 8/3/20 at 12:48 pm to SidewalkTiger
quote:apparently he is a socialist that hates capitalist.
Ed O isn't 18 years old and when he was, guess what he was doing?
Being an unpaid student athlete.
I know its confusing but entry level workers in an industry don't make the same as someone who's done it for 40 years.
I'm curious about what you do for a living since you seem to have very little understanding of how everyday life works.
he isn't capable of logic.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 12:52 pm to lsufball19
quote:exactly. he's a skyscreamer. total idiot.
Peejay, a “GA Tech fan” exclusively posts on the SEC Rant and never discusses Georgia Tech ever. He’s a very odd person. At least the Clemson fans that post here troll about Clemson. Peejay only trolls about virtue signaling nonsense
Posted on 8/3/20 at 12:56 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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If you get your way, the TV Networks won't renew when the contracts come up for renegotiation, that leads to the Money drying up and that leads to a shitty product that you won't support, don't LIE and say you will
That's all perfectly okay with me. And you're right, I wouldn't watch much of the "product". However, it is important to note that my football consumption over the past few seasons has decreased substantially.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 12:59 pm to J2thaROC
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Doesn’t have to be. It’s really about a company making millions off the labor of individuals who are paid in peanuts comparatively, who have a skill set that very few people have. Can just about anyone “play” football? Sure. Can just about anyone play at the level these athletes play? Not a chance in hell.
If all of the top rated athletes decide to do this, it would cripple college football greatly. The players who decide to do this would be fine. The NFL would change their policies to get these better players in some way. Right now they have a rule about not drafting from high school, but that’s because they have been given a free “minor league” in the form of college football. But I guarantee you if these top athletes stop playing for colleges, the NFL will find an alternative to their rule before they start taking 2nd and 3rd tier players from colleges. Only colleges stand to lose from this if the players as a unified group decide to do this. If it’s a few players, colleges will do what was done here. If it’s the majority of the top 250 players in the nation that does this, colleges will have to come to the table and compromise or lose out big time.
You are very fair and intelligent in your reply, you seem to have good understanding of business also
A refreshing change from the majority around here
For some reason they seem to think that P5 CFB grosses $5billion yearly despite the elite talent rather than in unison with the elite talent
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:02 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:I'm fine with your reply
That's all perfectly okay with me. And you're right, I wouldn't watch much of the "product". However, it is important to note that my football consumption over the past few seasons has decreased substantially.
Thank you for being fair & honest
Unfortunately many around here are claiming, "I love my University so much I'd buy tickets to watch whoever's wearing my schools colors"
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:06 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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What you call "entry level positions" another person calls them the centerpieces and the frontline labor in an Entertainment Enterprise that grosses $5 Billion Dollars among the 70 P5 Colleges
It is all about perspective, most intelligent people would say that my perspective is likely to be more fair
Those Coaches don't gross that $5 billion by themselves, the money has become so great that a free bachelor's degree just isn't enough, sorry pal time to evolve
They're asking for tens of millions of dollars no matter how you want to slice it. That's simply not possible, and they know that or should know that. The TV contract alone with the Pac 12 is 250 million a year divided among the 12 schools. If you eliminate 20+ million from the budget of any athletic department, they won't be able to cover even close to all their expenses without eliminating all their non-revenue sports. So what these football players are demanding is selfish. They want to get paid at the expense of the hundreds of other student athletes at their school. frick them and their demands.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:08 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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Those Coaches don't gross that $5 billion by themselves, the money has become so great that a free bachelor's degree just isn't enough, sorry pal time to evolve
Nick Saban has generated infinitely more money for the University of Alabama than they could ever pay him. These players wouldn't be at Alabama without Saban, so spare me that the players are responsible for what's generated. The players don't put in even close to the amount of time and energy that the head coach does. It's almost as if you have no idea how a very basic business hierarchy model works. The players are at the bottom rung, always will be, and should be.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:14 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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At the HS level the taxpayers provide for all sports, although some of the extras are funded by booster clubs
Um, that's exactly how it works at a State university, just on a larger scale.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:21 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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I thought College Baseball was break-even
frick no. LSU is one of like 3 baseball programs that turn a profit and it's generally right at or under a million dollars per year, and they have averaged a sell out for over 20 straight years. Baseball is a very expensive sport. The only sports that turn a profit most places are basketball and football. Many places still lose money on both those sports as well.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:26 pm to RebelTheBear
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For anyone wondering why the PAC-12 told these players to shove it, especially the part where any form of revenue is shared, please read this article. Ole Miss is going to lose between $20M-$30M if the football season plays out the way we think it will. No way in hell any D1 program can pay players anything if they can barely keep their own doors open
The fact that U Miss might lose that much Money off of FB alone due to CV19 changes shows how important FB Players are to the Financial well being of the Athl Dept
You're actually making a STRONG CASE that they deserve to be paid larger Stipends once we get back to "normal" after we figure out a way to deal with this Pandemic
The Players thank you for your timely assistance!
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:27 pm to Ed Osteen
Pull their scholarships and don't let them transfer, stupid arse liberal chillren....
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:28 pm to TheSandman
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How dare the players be concerned with their own health and well-being
Did you read their list of demands?
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:28 pm to GusAU
Didn't take long for the "reporter's" opinion to get in the way of his reporting...
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This is not a good look for Washington State or first-year head football coach Nick Rolovich. At all.
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Sunday afternoon, players from across the Pac-12 confirmed that they will sit out the 2020 season en masse unless a laundry list of concerns are addressed. Among those are fighting racial injustice, ensuring safety amidst the COVID-19 pandemic, obtain long-term health insurance and secure economic rights and fair compensation. Most of those are highly reasonable and probably should’ve been done years before. Seeking 50 percent of a conference’s revenue be directed to student-athletes? That’s highly, highly, highly unlikely, if for nothing more than the impact it would have on non-revenue sports, which are already on the chopping block because of the pandemic.
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And, if the program is indeed not allowing players who opt out of the season to participate in practice or any other team activities — a very reasonable stance if they are opting out over safety concerns — they need to state that. Especially if they are going to remain on scholarship after opting out.
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:30 pm to TheSandman
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surely you understand basic negotiating tactics?
Apparently those players don’t.
It’s one thing to ask for something you know you won’t get in order to negotiate down to what you really want.
But These players grossly overshot And deserve this response from WSU.
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:30 pm to TheSandman
quote:Strawman spin right there
How dare the players be concerned with their own health and well-being
Its about MONEY. Nothing more. Just mother fricking MONEY
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:33 pm to lsufball19
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Nick Saban has generated infinitely more money for the University of Alabama than they could ever pay him. These players wouldn't be at Alabama without Saban, so spare me that the players are responsible for what's generated. The players don't put in even close to the amount of time and energy that the head coach does. It's almost as if you have no idea how a very basic business hierarchy model works. The players are at the bottom rung, always will be, and should be.
You're beyond stupid if you believe that crap you wrote above
No one asked for Players to get MORE THAN SABAN, you use an asinine hypothetical to try and make your weak argument legit
You obviously have never read one word that I've posted, I have always admitted that the Players AND the coaches are responsible for the financial windfall, you seem to have ignored my outlook on that
Folks like you that believe it's the HC raising 100% of the money and the players can be swapped out with any warm body and produce the same results are beyond helping
You are pathetic
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:37 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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You're beyond stupid if you believe that crap you wrote above
No one asked for Players to get MORE THAN SABAN, you use an asinine hypothetical to try and make your weak argument legit
You obviously have never read one word that I've posted, I have always admitted that the Players AND the coaches are responsible for the financial windfall, you seem to have ignored my outlook on that
Folks like you that believe it's the HC raising 100% of the money and the players can be swapped out with any warm body and produce the same results are beyond helping
You are pathetic
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:37 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
Let me ask you
Hypothetically let’s say the players get the 50% revenue they ask for.
Would you be OK with them paying for their own tuition, own books, own room and board, their own meals, their own tutors etc? No more scholarships.
People act like they get nothing when they get far far more than any other student on campus.
Hypothetically let’s say the players get the 50% revenue they ask for.
Would you be OK with them paying for their own tuition, own books, own room and board, their own meals, their own tutors etc? No more scholarships.
People act like they get nothing when they get far far more than any other student on campus.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:39 pm to memphis tiger
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But These players grossly overshot And deserve this response from WSU.
The players are totally within their rights to ask for as much money as they want... but the colleges are also in their rights to tell them to shove it.
I read that the WR at WSU that recorded his coach had 6 catches last year. SIX. This will be a good lesson for some of these kids in supply and demand
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