re: Bold prediction on UGA

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caught lightening in a bottle with the Monken, Stetson and Bowers combo.

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Take away teh tee martin "lightning in a bottle" and we're going on 73 yeras wtihout a tennesse national title. YEesh

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The hive mind collective obviously wants everyone to pretend UGA WRs are Biletnikoff winners and the QBs are all Heisman winners.

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Can you link the Georgia posts claiming this? I haven’t seen anyone pretend McConkey should’ve won anything just like I haven’t seen anyone claim Bennett should’ve won the heisman. Bennett’s numbers probably would’ve been better if Pickens was able to play in 21 or if Mitchell didn’t miss the regular season in 22, but UGA was able to win without them because they don’t run an offense dependent on one player like bama.

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Can you link the Georgia posts claiming this?

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He can’t debate using logic or relevant facts, so he resorts to making up hyperbolic statements like those instead.

This right here.. the 2024 class..
UTK has 4 OL and 3 DL

UGA has 6 OL and 5 DL..

That’s the difference. over 3 years that’s depth. JH offensive believes in skill positions and out scheming you.
Kirby’s philosophy is to big play you early while beating you up inside… the. When the 4th qtr comes , you have nothing left and UGA is rotating running’s backs avg 7yds a carry. And you can’t catch them.

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Can you link the Georgia posts claiming this?

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A bit of hyperbole I admit. But not much of one. Most reasonable people would say UGA hasn’t done very well with WRs historically. Except the UGA group think posters. They really believe McConkey is a good WR. Reality is he’s a possession WR that should be the 4th or 5th guy in a rotation. And UGA has no production from the position outside of him. And any talented WRs that go to UGA just disappear off the stat sheet while at UGA. Case in point AJ Green or George Pickens. Both are very talented and when healthy had or should have very solid NFL careers but were just did not have outstanding production at UGA.

The Bennett thing is odd, the group think posters want to believe he can make all the throws, was a top 5 QB in the nation in 2022(meansony made the claim again in this discussion) but reality is he is short for the position and lacks the arm or athleticism to mitigate his height.

For some unknown reason the group think carde have decided the DJ(the village idiot of Royston Ga), a guy that has never played organized sports at any level, somehow knows the high level analytics (mental gymnastics) to make UGAs O the reason they won a couple of titles. And anyone that asserts that they should enjoy the winning for what it was, defensive front 7 depth and a lot of blind luck ie scheduling and injuries must face the wrath of the group think posters.
I’m not saying the titles are tainted or shouldn’t count by any stretch and applaud Kirby for winning championships on the recruiting trail. But there is no reason to pretend they are something they are not.

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George Pickens

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The only year he was healthy was his frosh season where he had 727 yards and 8 touchdowns. Missed half the season his sophomore year and his entire junior season. Unless you’re saying UGA should’ve gotten more out of a WR with an ACL tear, he’s a weird example to point to.

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UGAs O the reason they won a couple of titles. And anyone that asserts that they should enjoy the winning for what it was, defensive front 7 depth and a lot of blind luck ie scheduling and injuries

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You can recognize the impact of the defense while also acknowledging Bennett’s play. He finished top 5 in QBR and YPA and was the MVP of 4 playoff games. As far as injuries go, UGA had multiple injuries to starters both years. It’s weird bama can’t be expected to win if they’re missing their WR 1, but UGA won back to back championships missing their WR1 both seasons.

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The only year he was healthy was his frosh season where he had 727 yards and 8 touchdowns. Missed half the season his sophomore year and his entire junior season. Unless you’re saying UGA should’ve gotten more out of a WR with an ACL tear, he’s a weird example to point to.

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It’s just always something with any talented UGA WR. Green had off the field issues that hampered him. And I use Pickens because he was both recent and a rare talented WR1 that went to UGA. A very small pool to draw from, further expanding on the point that UGA historically hasn’t done well at the WR position. Pickens being injury prone is just another example of “something” that makes WR1s disappear off stats sheets at UGA.

We get to see the theory tested in 2023 with 2 portal guys Kirby brought in. Lovett would have likely hit over 1,000 yards and been UGAs all time single season receiving leader with 2 extra games. And that’s with no catches against Kentucky and only 4 games over 85 yards and 1 game over 7 receptions. If history holds he will see a real decline in his production at UGA and end up in the 500 yard range or less, be it injury, ineffectiveness of QB play, off the field issues, or Kirby micromanaging the O eliminating the one thing Lovett excels at the low percentage deep ball.

I don’t expect much from Rara Thomas this year. He was too inconsistent at MSU and put up middling numbers in a Leach offense so anything over 25 yards a game would be mildly surprising from him. The Vols looked at him when in the portal but I didn’t see a role in the rotation and was surprised UGA took him. And he’s already had an off the field issue.

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. Most reasonable people would say UGA hasn’t done very well with WRs historically. Except the UGA group think posters. They really believe McConkey is a good WR. Reality is he’s a possession WR that should be the 4th or 5th guy in a rotation.

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UGA up until about 3 years ago was a run-first offense. While many look solely at raw stat production and think UGA receivers haven't done well, those who look at production per target have seen that UGA had quite a few effective WR's, who became effective NFL receivers despite having fewer college targets.

It's foolish to talk about the history of UGA's offense and think that it's the same as what UGA runs now though. Jim Chaney and Todd Monken's offenses are drastically different, and the biggest difference is that Monken ran a pass first offense out of the spread that works fast early in games and Chaney ran a pro-style offense that always ran slow.

In 2017 in 15 games, UGA had 303 pass attempts total.
In 2022 in 15 games, UGA had 490.

This is a big reason UGA WR's haven't put up huge stat lines despite often being a huge part of the offense. UGA didn't throw the ball all that much.

UGA's change in approach in offense over those 5 seasons is obvious and is important to their success on the field. But for some reason some who follow other teams seemingly haven't noticed UGA's change or don't think it matters.

Now as for McConkey... he is an excellent WR. He's also a possession WR. He's trying to be Wes Welker, not AJ Green.

I do think that while Bennett is an excellent college QB, his arm strength did lead to an under-utilization of down field threat WR's at UGA and more passes going to TE, RB and possession WR's. It's part of the reason for excitement about the QB position at UGA now, where all of them have the arm strength to go downfield more consistently.

I do think that's why guys like AD Mitchell and Jermaine Burton went elsewhere from UGA... because they were more involved in downfield passing and weren't getting that with Bennett. They also didn't want to cross train to be able to function in all parts of the passing game which UGA requires (our WR's have to be willing to take hits catching short crossing routes and block in the running game as well as run long routes on the outside).

UGA's offense under Monken is best described as one that doesn't feature a player, but rather has so much talent at every position that we take what the defense gives us. Bowers is great, but we're fine if you want to scheme to take him away. Oregon did that last year, focusing on Bowers and the running game. UGA went outside to WR's and RB's in the flat and blew them out. SC tried to take away the outside WR's and running game. UGA went to TE's and slot WR's and tore them up. Auburn tried to focus on stopping the pass in all ways. UGA ran the ball straight down their throat to blow them out.

UGA's aggression on offense the last couple of seasons is a difference from what UGA had before. Yes, the front 7 is still great. It's been great for decades though. What was different is UGA now comes out of the gate going full gas on offense, gets out to big leads and then sits on them... instead of playing a methodical offense that burns clock, shortens games and often ends up with small wins even in games they dominate due to playing ball control. Your inability to see what has changed is a you problem... not one with UGA fans.

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It’s just always something with any talented UGA WR

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UGA doesn’t typically get 5* WR’s. Pickens was the first 5* WR since AJ Green. Still, not sure how it’s UGA’s fault Pickens couldn’t stay healthy.