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Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:35 pm to Bigbens42
Two can play at this game…. If you gave Fournette a QB and passing game he’d have run for 3,000 yards and 40TDs
See how that works?
See how that works?
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:51 pm to Bigbens42
It is impressive enough he had as many yards as he did. Arkansas had zero QB play and zero threats at wideout. A moron as a coach who called predictable play call after play call.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:56 pm to Madking
Henry and Fournette played on better teams with more explosive players. McFadden had Peyton Hillis and Felix Jones, that was it.
Nutt gets fired earlier if McFadden never makes it on campus. McFadden carried Arkansas and not the other way around.
Nutt gets fired earlier if McFadden never makes it on campus. McFadden carried Arkansas and not the other way around.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:09 pm to dchog
He also had 2 NFL WRs, an NFL TE and 4 NFL Olineman, never fewer than 2 at a time with him. Funny you didn’t remember those guys. And as far as the falsities about how much better LSUs passing game was than poor old McFadden’s there’s a factual remedy for that notion as well…
Arkansas 38 games with McFadden
Passing YPG- 152.6
Passing TDs- 60
LSU 32 games with Fournette
Passing YPG- 168.8
Passing TDs- 34
Arkansas 38 games with McFadden
Passing YPG- 152.6
Passing TDs- 60
LSU 32 games with Fournette
Passing YPG- 168.8
Passing TDs- 34
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:15 pm to Madking
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You mean like Anthony Jennings and Brandon Harris? I won’t even get into your continued fantasies and unprovable excuses.
Let me give you just a little perspective, okay?
In the 2 years before Fournette came to LSU, plus his three years there, LSU signed 9 five star recruits, and 66 four star recruits, including Fournette.
In the 2 years before DMac came to Arkansas, plus his three years there, Arkansas signed one five star (DMac) and 8 four star recruits.
So in a 5 year span, LSU signed 1 more 5 star recruit than Arkansas signed 4 stars. You don’t think DMac belongs in the conversation with Walker and Jackson, I get it. But you’re completely dismissing what he did.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:36 pm to troyt37
You realize that 2006 was the first year national recruits were ranked? You’re running out of places to move the goal post. The facts have been posted so if you wanna go down the path of excuses for everything be my guest but it establishes zero.
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:38 pm to lewis and herschel
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Well, one put his team on his back and carried them to a national title as a freshman.
Go back and examine the "quality" of that 1980 UGA schedule and get back to me.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:41 pm to Madking
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You realize that 2006 was the first year national recruits were ranked? You’re running out of places to move the goal post. The facts have been posted so if you go down the excuse road there’s no end to that for anyone so be my guest but it establishes zero.
Knock yourself out, Skippy
What I just established is the LF played with somewhere around 8 other 5 stars, and 66 four stars. DMac played as the only 5 star on the team, and with only 8 four stars possibly, for his entire college career. Which pretty much says any inference that DMac had anything approaching the talent around him that LF had is utterly ignorant. That also means that what DMac accomplished is that much more incredible.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:47 pm to GruvenDawg
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I love Bo, but I don’t think I’m being a homer to pick Walker
5,259 yards and 49 touchdowns in just 33 games (3 years no bowl or playoff stats). Still the SEC all time rush leader.
Career YPC:
Herschel - 5.3
Bo - 6.6
Career Rush attempts/TD:
Herschel - 19.1
Bo - 14.4
The reason you drooling mutts think Herschel is better is only because Dooley gave the ball to Herschel more because that's the only player he trusted.
But the running back who would get you more yardage on average every time you put the ball in his belly?
Bo Jackson.
The running back who would score more often on the ground when you put the ball in his belly?
Bo Jackson.
Statistically and factually proven.
You dawgies may hate the facts and ignore them, but the facts are there anyway.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:55 pm to troyt37
So what you’re saying is Kevin Faulk was the greatest offensive football player in SEC history? Can’t argue with you there since you don’t believe in data or reality.
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:58 pm to Madking
One WR in Marcus Monk who played injured in 2007. Drafted in the seventh round. Damien Williams transferred to USC after 2006 as a freshman and was drafted as a Trojan.
D.J Willians an undersized tight end who was drafted in the fifth round.
2006 NFL Draft
7th round pick 254 Vickiel Vaughn Safety.
2007
1st round pick 8 Jamaal Anderson DE.
2nd round pick 41 Chris Houston CB.
2nd round pick 42 Tony Ugoh OL.
7th round pick 248 Keith Jackson DT.
2008
1st round pick 4 Darren McFadden RB.
1st round pick 22 Felix Jones RB.
3rd round pick 90 Marcus Harrison DT.
7th round pick 211 Nate Garner OT.
7th round pick 226 Peyton Hillis FB
7th round pick 248 Marcus monk WR.
I have failed to see the overwhelming OL, TE and WR talent that surrounded McFadden.
D.J Willians an undersized tight end who was drafted in the fifth round.
2006 NFL Draft
7th round pick 254 Vickiel Vaughn Safety.
2007
1st round pick 8 Jamaal Anderson DE.
2nd round pick 41 Chris Houston CB.
2nd round pick 42 Tony Ugoh OL.
7th round pick 248 Keith Jackson DT.
2008
1st round pick 4 Darren McFadden RB.
1st round pick 22 Felix Jones RB.
3rd round pick 90 Marcus Harrison DT.
7th round pick 211 Nate Garner OT.
7th round pick 226 Peyton Hillis FB
7th round pick 248 Marcus monk WR.
I have failed to see the overwhelming OL, TE and WR talent that surrounded McFadden.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:16 pm to dchog
“Overwhelming” you came up with that term, nobody else mentioned it so nice straw man attempt. Btw how many WRs does he need with 2 other NFL backs and an NFL TE on the field? Did you expect the NCAA to approve illegal formations solely for poor old McFadden? I wonder what Barry Sanders thinks of your sorry excuses when he went for 2,600 and 37TDs in 11 games and actually didn’t have much help? But I’m sure in your mind poor old McFadden had it worse lol.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:27 pm to Turf Taint
Bo Jackson because he makes his own arrows and is bad arse hunter
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:53 pm to Madking
So many errors in this rant I really don’t know how to respond. Other than to say you are clueless. By the way a running back does thing other than run the ball. That’s a bit of free knowledge for the ignorant
Posted on 7/9/21 at 11:01 pm to beatbammer
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You dawgies may hate the facts and ignore them, but the facts are there anyway.
Hate facts?
Your facts are cute.
The more a tailback gets the load, the harder it is to perform.
The goal is to win games.
Handing the ball to Herschel went 33-3 over 3 seasons (18-0 versus the SEC. 25-0 against all SEC teams past, present, and future).
Maybe Bo should have hurt his average by being more of a focal point of the office.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 11:01 pm to Madking
You make it sound like McFadden was surrounded by first round talent on offense which is incorrect.
He needed more than a limping Marcus Monk who wasn't a deep threat. Who else is left? London Crawford? He did nothing here.
McFadden didn't benefit from Jones or Hillis but the opposite. D.J Williams had a very short stint in the NFL. Good college player but not elite level like Hunter Henry.
Maybe McFadden had a head coach that put more emphasis on a passing game? Nutt gives up his play calling to a real OC and hire a QB coach. Nah his ego told him no way.
Barry Sanders would say I wish I would have played for the Sooners!
He needed more than a limping Marcus Monk who wasn't a deep threat. Who else is left? London Crawford? He did nothing here.
McFadden didn't benefit from Jones or Hillis but the opposite. D.J Williams had a very short stint in the NFL. Good college player but not elite level like Hunter Henry.
Maybe McFadden had a head coach that put more emphasis on a passing game? Nutt gives up his play calling to a real OC and hire a QB coach. Nah his ego told him no way.
Barry Sanders would say I wish I would have played for the Sooners!
Posted on 7/9/21 at 11:18 pm to dchog
In a Bo vs Herschel debate I'm going with Derrick Henry.
Heisman...SEC rushing record AND a national championship. And for good measure, he just went over 2,000 yards in the NFL last year while going back to back as the NFL rushing champion.
Heisman...SEC rushing record AND a national championship. And for good measure, he just went over 2,000 yards in the NFL last year while going back to back as the NFL rushing champion.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 7/10/21 at 1:10 am to lewis and herschel
quote:As an objective outsider, I can say that Lionel "Little Train" James was a known back when he played at Auburn. Different style of player, a lot like Darren Sproles, or more recently Clyde Edwards-Helaire.
I am simply telling you Bo is the only house hold name. Plenty of mediocre running backs make the nfl.
Teams had a different philosophy on offense back then; UGA relied on Herschel constantly. Auburn, like LSU (with Hilliard and James), took advantage of the fact that they had multiple backs who could make plays. This hurt Bo's individual totals, but helped the team.
Looking back at LSU, Dalton Hilliard had 4000 yds rushing for his career (5100 yds from scrimmage), Garry James had 2200 rushing yds (3200 yds from scrimmage). They played all 4 yrs together. If either played alone, their numbers would be higher. Hilliard would be a legend today, James would at least be remembered.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 2:04 am to Turf Taint
Bo no go in co bo.
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