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re: Bo Jackson vs. Herschel Walker
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:06 pm to KingOfTheWorld
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:06 pm to KingOfTheWorld
Bo didnt race Herschel (who clocked better 60 and 100 times than Bo in college).
Like i said, Herschel was chasing Carl Lewis. LOL. Bo's PRs prove that he would have been chasing Herschel.
Like i said, Herschel was chasing Carl Lewis. LOL. Bo's PRs prove that he would have been chasing Herschel.
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Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:12 pm to meansonny
I love Herschel today and he was equally a freak in the day. I’m probably biased growing up around Bo and seeing him in person. We’re all lucky to have watched both of these legends.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:13 pm to meansonny
From an article about Heisman winners and T&F
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Herschel Walker Walker, the 1982 winner, joined Simpson as a football/track All-American when he placed seventh in the NCAA’s 100-meter dash final in the spring of 1981. Walker ran a wind-aided 10.30 in a race won by future Olympic gold medalist Carl Lewis. The spring before winning the Heisman, Walker clocked a personal-best 10.23 and went as low as a 10.10 with the aid of the wind. He also ran the 55-meter dash in 6.11 seconds. All these numbers make Walker, arguably, the fastest Heisman winner despite weighing a solid 220 pounds.
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Bo Jackson Jackson might be the best athlete in the history of the Heisman. Not only did he run a best of 10.44 in the 100 meters at 6-1, 225 pounds, he also twice qualified for the NCAA indoor 60-yard dash while at Auburn (his 6.18 60 yard dash run in 1983 is still in the Auburn record books). He was also a high-level decathlete in high school with a best mark of 8,340. Though some of his claimed marks are unverifiable, we do know he high jumped 6-foot-9, triple jumped 48-8, threw the discus over 150 feet, the shot put over 50 feet and went 12.9 in the 110-yard hurdles. Given those marks, it’s quite possible that Jackson could have gone on to be a world-class decathlete had he not played football.
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Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:24 pm to Turf Taint
Production was definitely Herschel. Everyone keeps talking about how good of an athlete Bo was, but Walker was no slouch. Anyway, the question isn't who was the best athlete, but the best college running back. Imo the answer has to be Herschel. I'm a huge fan of both, but Walker faced loaded fronts all day long and beat them. He could carry the ball as many times as UGA needed him to as well, and durability has to be considered.
I do think it's close either way, and they're definitely the two best college backs of all time. It's really 1a and 1b imo.
I do think it's close either way, and they're definitely the two best college backs of all time. It's really 1a and 1b imo.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:27 pm to Turf Taint
Herschel had better numbers in college and as a pro in the game of football, won 3 SEC Championships, a National Championship, ran track, did ballet, participated on the US bobsledding team, fought professionally...
AND
is about to be the next Senator for the great state of Georgia!
I have tremendous respect and admiration for Bo Jackson, but I am obviously gonna say that HW was the better running back...
AND
is about to be the next Senator for the great state of Georgia!
I have tremendous respect and admiration for Bo Jackson, but I am obviously gonna say that HW was the better running back...
This post was edited on 7/7/21 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:46 pm to Leto II
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From an article about Heisman winners and T&F
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Herschel Walker Walker, the 1982 winner, joined Simpson as a football/track All-American when he placed seventh in the NCAA’s 100-meter dash final in the spring of 1981. Walker ran a wind-aided 10.30 in a race won by future Olympic gold medalist Carl Lewis. The spring before winning the Heisman, Walker clocked a personal-best 10.23 and went as low as a 10.10 with the aid of the wind. He also ran the 55-meter dash in 6.11 seconds. All these numbers make Walker, arguably, the fastest Heisman winner despite weighing a solid 220 pounds.
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Bo Jackson Jackson might be the best athlete in the history of the Heisman. Not only did he run a best of 10.44 in the 100 meters at 6-1, 225 pounds, he also twice qualified for the NCAA indoor 60-yard dash while at Auburn (his 6.18 60 yard dash run in 1983 is still in the Auburn record books). He was also a high-level decathlete in high school with a best mark of 8,340. Though some of his claimed marks are unverifiable, we do know he high jumped 6-foot-9, triple jumped 48-8, threw the discus over 150 feet, the shot put over 50 feet and went 12.9 in the 110-yard hurdles. Given those marks, it’s quite possible that Jackson could have gone on to be a world-class decathlete had he not played football.
Your link is incorrect.
Bo didnt run a 60 yard dash in 6.18.
The Auburn record is 6.5.
Bo ran the 55 meter at 6.18 and his time was slower than Herschel.
Herschel's official 100m PR is 10.23 (wind aided, he recorded 10.1)
Bo was an amazing athlete.
Now he is a guy that looks like he ate an amazing athlete. But he has always been slower than Herschel. Especially with Walker's leg kick.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 12:53 am to Turf Taint
They were both all time greats as rbs. If I was building a team and had the choice between the two, I would have to take bo though. He's one of the greatest all around athletes of all time.
People saying that Herschel was better than bo bc he had a longer and more productive pro career aren't taking into account that bo suffered a serious, career ending injury to his hip. A hip dislocation like he suffered would have ended anybodys career. He developed avascular necrosis and had to have a hip replacement...it was that serious. If he wouldn't have had that injury, I don't see how he wouldn't have made it into the hall of Fame based on how he was performing at the time.
People saying that Herschel was better than bo bc he had a longer and more productive pro career aren't taking into account that bo suffered a serious, career ending injury to his hip. A hip dislocation like he suffered would have ended anybodys career. He developed avascular necrosis and had to have a hip replacement...it was that serious. If he wouldn't have had that injury, I don't see how he wouldn't have made it into the hall of Fame based on how he was performing at the time.
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Posted on 7/8/21 at 1:27 am to Turf Taint
Bo was faster, Herschel was better
Posted on 7/8/21 at 2:58 am to meansonny
As a neutral party Herschel was the better football player, bo was the better athlete.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 3:44 am to Turf Taint
I'll take prime Herschel Walker as my running back over any back in SEC history.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 6:40 am to EtowahBama
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Bo was faster,
For the 40? Yes
On longer distances, Herschel was faster
Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:08 am to dcbl
I was never impressed with Walker's lateral movement. If he had that elusive quality he would have been Jim Brown good. He had so many attributes that go into a special running back but just couldn't move lateral enough to be super special. Think Barry Sanders type hip movement.
Bo Jackson had that quality and barring that terrible injury was going to hit superstardom in both baseball and football. Unheard of before Bo. Bo was the best athlete in the world and the fans were eating it up with a spoon.
Bo Jackson had that quality and barring that terrible injury was going to hit superstardom in both baseball and football. Unheard of before Bo. Bo was the best athlete in the world and the fans were eating it up with a spoon.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:14 am to meansonny
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The Auburn record is 6.5.
Yeah that's Coby. I know him because he came in a few years behind me.
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Now he is a guy that looks like he ate an amazing athlete.
But that's not accurate. Bo is still pretty fit. Not like he was in 85, obviously but I wouldn't consider him fat.
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 7:18 am
Posted on 7/8/21 at 8:16 am to Leto II
Well one team only had one back so they road the hell out of him. Actually he was all they had on offense. The other consisted of Bo Jackson, Lionel James, Brent Fullwood, and Tommy Agee.
Walker was averaging 30 carries a game. Bo averaged 19 carries a game. Where Bo beat Herschel was he averaged 6.6 yards per carry Herschel only averaged 5.5. Georgia used him as a battering ram and heavily relied on there defense to hold the score down.
Bo ran over, ran around , out ran, and ran through. Bo did more with less . Herschel best quality was his size and stamina. Very much like Earl Campbell. Good but totally different styles.
Walker was averaging 30 carries a game. Bo averaged 19 carries a game. Where Bo beat Herschel was he averaged 6.6 yards per carry Herschel only averaged 5.5. Georgia used him as a battering ram and heavily relied on there defense to hold the score down.
Bo ran over, ran around , out ran, and ran through. Bo did more with less . Herschel best quality was his size and stamina. Very much like Earl Campbell. Good but totally different styles.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 8:18 am to Turf Taint
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Bo
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:11 am to Pauldingtiger
Looks to me that Auburn also only had one back and a dumbass coach....
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:52 am to Turf Taint
I can't add anything to the discussion that hasn't been said already. I was able to see them both break my heart and have nothing but respect for their talent.
I remember a previous comment about HW's short stride and how those short strides made the defenders look silly after he ran over you or around.
I remember a previous comment about HW's short stride and how those short strides made the defenders look silly after he ran over you or around.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:56 am to bamameister
He didn't need lateral movement. Ask Bill Bates.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 10:01 am to lewis and herschel
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Looks to me that Auburn also only had one back and a dumbass coach....
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Lionel James, Brent Fullwood, and Tommy Agee.
How old are you? Can anybody post something here without being an ignorant troll?
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Fullwood played in four NFL seasons from 1987 to 1990 as well as finishing 6th in Heisman Trophy voting for his '86 SR season at Auburn. His best year as a pro came during the 1989 season when he led the Packers in rushing with 821 yards and was selected to the Pro Bowl.
Also an All-American
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Lionel James. He was selected by the Chargers in the fifth round of the 1984 NFL Draft. Undersized at 5 feet 6 inches (1.68 m) and 171 pounds (78 kg), James played college football for the Auburn Tigers, where he shared the backfield with Bo Jackson. James would be a part of the 1983 Southeast Conference champion and Sugar Bowl champion team. He spent his entire five-year NFL career with the Chargers from 1984-1988. His best year as a pro came during the 1985 season when he set the then-NFL season records for receiving yards by a running back and all-purpose yardage. He also led the AFC in receptions that year. In 1985, James set the NFL record for all purpose yards in a season with 2,535 yards. He also set the record for receiving yards by a running back with 1,027 yards,[1] while also leading the AFC in receptions with 86. On November 10, 1985, he had his best day as a pro versus the Los Angeles Raiders. He gained 345 all-purpose yards including a career best 168 yards receiving and scored the winning touchdown in a 40–34 overtime victory.[1] The total yardage was second at the time only to the 373 yards by Billy Cannon in 1961, and remains a Chargers franchise record. He might have broken the record in an earlier game that season against the Cincinnati Bengals except for a Chargers penalty that cost him 89 yards of a 100-yard kickoff return. James finished that game with 316 yards.[2]
quote:Also played 7 seasons in the NFL.
Agee was a four-year starter at fullback, that was primarily used as the lead blocker for Bo Jackson and Brent Fullwood. He finished his college career with 356 carries for 1,733 yards (4.9-yard average), 10 rushing touchdowns, 32 receptions for 321 yards, 3 receiving touchdowns, and returned 10 kickoffs for a 21.5 yard average. In 2019, he was inducted into the Alabama Sports Hall of Fame.
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