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Black Bears Are Going To Screw Around And Get The Death Penalty
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:55 am
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:55 am
They ought to just fire Freeze, shut up, and take their medicine.
That would be the smart thing to do.
That would be the smart thing to do.
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:58 am to FishFearMe
The death penalty doesn't exist anymore. If the NCAA even came close to a punishment like that the lawsuits would possibly topple over their house of cards.
Everyone will pretty much be happy when Ole Miss fires Freeze instead of trying to hold onto him. They will keep getting slammed until they accept that inevitable fate.
Everyone will pretty much be happy when Ole Miss fires Freeze instead of trying to hold onto him. They will keep getting slammed until they accept that inevitable fate.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:59 am to FishFearMe
With the new penalty matrix, I'm not sure it will matter to the COI whether Freeze is retained or not. 
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:04 am to cardboardboxer
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The death penalty doesn't exist anymore.
The model now is "let em suffer".
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:07 am to FishFearMe
Freezus may walk away with a Show Cause if the Rebs dont handle this the right way.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:21 am to Jobu93
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Freezus may walk away with a Show Cause if the Rebs dont handle this the right way.
That's happening regardless of what Ole Miss does or does not do.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:59 am to Jobu93
quote:I don't see how he escapes a Show Cause, it no longer matters how OM handles this thing going forward.
Freezus may walk away with a Show Cause if the Rebs dont handle this the right way.
An entire recruiting operation was taking place under Freeze's nose for multiple years, encompassing over a dozen Boosters, active players on his team, and over 3 dozen student-athletes with over half his staff involved. The school has admitted to cheating on a grand scale and admitted that "mistakes" were made during the investigation. Hugh Freeze is/was the man in charge.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:03 pm to cardboardboxer
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The death penalty doesn't exist anymore.
Wrong incorrect.
That is a lie. It has been enacted TWICE since the 1987 SMU Death Penalty.
Here is an interview
With Mark Emmert.
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"If, and I say if, we have very unique circumstances where TV bans and death penalties are warranted, then I don't think they are off the table and I would be OK with putting those in place," Emmert told The Associated Press in a telephone interview
These are "very unique circumstances"
Posted on 6/7/17 at 2:14 pm to The Winner
I will believe it when I see it. The NCAA can't get away with a TV ban in 2017, partially because it hurts more than the program you are wanting to punish thanks to conference TV deals.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 2:31 pm to cardboardboxer
True. But I very been waiting for a case like this. We just haven't seen a SMU case since 1987. This is as close as we will get.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 2:32 pm to FishFearMe
Ole Miss is fighting just to keep Freeze long enough to get the new recruits in and make it till they can get a new young coach that doesn't mind coaching in the dark.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 2:47 pm to The Winner
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We just haven't seen a SMU case since 1987. This is as close as we will get.
What Miami did was WAY worse. WAY. And they walked because the NCAA fricked up the process.
What Penn St did to protect the program was WAY worse than anything ever, but no death penalty came.
What North Carolina did undermined the entire lie of the amateurism of the sport, and it looks like they will walk.
The difference between those programs and Ole Miss is those are top programs in at least one sport while Ole Miss isn't. So if Ole Miss gets the worst punishment we have seen since SMU it won't be because they did the worst thing since SMU, it will be because this sport likes to have whipping boys.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:59 pm to cardboardboxer
They are making a big mistake trying to keep Freeze. At least if Freeze took all the blame the administration might have some plausible deniability.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:10 pm to FishFearMe
You are asking Freeze to lie? No, my friend, he will not do so.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 5:49 am to matthew25
I really hope you are being sarcastic, because with all the cheating goin on Freeze either A) knew and was all in on it, or B) is the dumbest SOB on the planet if he didn't know. Either way it's LOIC.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 5:51 am
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:12 am to The Winner
Who were the other 2 CFB teams?Per this article
The scope of the allegations has already created widespread debate over bringing back the death penalty, which has been used only once -- when the NCAA canceled SMU's 1987 football season because of a pay-for-play scandal. The school decided not to play in 1988, either, as it tried to recover.
Sorry,a P5 team won't get the death penalty again.
If Penn State,Miami or Bama (Albert Means) didn't
get it than no P5 school will get it.
The scope of the allegations has already created widespread debate over bringing back the death penalty, which has been used only once -- when the NCAA canceled SMU's 1987 football season because of a pay-for-play scandal. The school decided not to play in 1988, either, as it tried to recover.
Sorry,a P5 team won't get the death penalty again.
If Penn State,Miami or Bama (Albert Means) didn't
get it than no P5 school will get it.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 9:38 am
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:09 am to matthew25
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You are asking Freeze to lie? No, my friend, he will not do so.
So let's see. After Simmons commitment, Freeze consoled and praised Farrar for all his successes but yet you believe he had been giving Farrar directives that he was deliberately ignoring? As stated in the response. Along with Farrar thumbing his nose at the university? But yet they still loved him right after Simmons. And pointed out all the successes he had closing the deal with Treadwell. AJ Brown. Tunsil. Etc. This was his second stint with Freeze. Who immediately lobbied for Farrar to become lead recruiter for the top prospects. From his assistant AD position. Giving him unbridled access to sources needed to facilitate the cheating.
Are you this dumb?
Think.
Think, man!
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:16 am to FishFearMe
It won't be the death penalty... but it will probably be the lingering illness penalty. They won't kill the Ole Miss football program but they will inject it with Ebola and watch it suffer for years.
If Ole Miss does get off the hook with only a minor slap on the wrist though... well its pretty much anything goes in football recruiting from here on out.
If Ole Miss does get off the hook with only a minor slap on the wrist though... well its pretty much anything goes in football recruiting from here on out.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:33 am to msudawg1200
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I really hope you are being sarcastic, because with all the cheating goin on Freeze either A) knew and was all in on it, or B) is the dumbest SOB on the planet if he didn't know. Either way it's LOIC.
Freeze was either complicit and allowed the Barney show to continue on for years and lied to the NCAA or he is totally oblivious to the activities of over half his staff. In either scenario how can he be trusted to go forward as the man in charge when he had no control of his own staff for almost the entire time he's been at OM?
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:08 am to matthew25
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You are asking Freeze to lie? No, my friend, he will not do so.
Oh yeah? So when he told recruits that the impending violation charges involved him he was telling the truth?
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