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re: Black Bears are getting more violations.

Posted on 7/12/16 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by Land Dawg
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 12:40 pm to
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The question is was it paid by a legal fund or an illegal fund.


See its questions like this that are embarrassing.

Do you really think there is a fund set up to pay for a family's light bill? I mean if they could afford to move to Oxford from Florida they could afford the light bill.
Posted by hehatedrew
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 12:41 pm to
Don't get embarrassed big guy
Posted by GnashRebel
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 12:41 pm to
Was he part of the lawsuit or was he just someone who got deposed in the process?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 12:56 pm to
Not sure tbh, but I think that he was part of the lawsuit
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 1:26 pm to
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Was he part of the lawsuit or was he just someone who got deposed in the process?

Were Hugh's attorney's successful in getting the deposition sealed in the Miller case?
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 1:59 pm to
Any update to the Ole Miss situation? Total number of scholly's lost? Would the NCAA make a final ruling soon to give players a chance to play elsewhere this fall without penalty?
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:38 pm to
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Any update to the Ole Miss situation? Total number of scholly's lost? Would the NCAA make a final ruling soon to give players a chance to play elsewhere this fall without penalty?
Nah....The NCAA moves at a snails pace. Hell, they've been investigating this case for 4 years and STILL couldn't get it closed and completed when they sent the NOA back in January. They had to go back and investigate some more and rumor is they are trying to wrap it up now.
Posted by Emanonion
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:42 pm to
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Were Hugh's attorney's successful in getting the deposition sealed in the Miller case?


They haven't even served Tunsil yet. Won't have to worry about it if they don't ever serve Tunsil.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:48 pm to
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Do you really think there is a fund set up to pay for a family's light bill? I mean if they could afford to move to Oxford from Florida they could afford the light bill.

Man I get where you're coming from. What I know is that I don't know what type of funds are set up to help our student athletes. What I also know is that OM invited the NCAA to Oxford the day after the draft and no coach has been fired. I know that OM knows what actually happened. I know that OM knows what the NCAA knows and what they can prove. I know that our Chancellor told a public Audience that that is behind us. I know that Freeze went on national television and told the world that if any coach paid a player illegally they would be fired. All of that tells me that there is a strong possibility nothing comes from those messages. I could be wrong, but don't act like my bias as a fan is some how more out of whack than your bias as a rival. Would freeze, Bjork, and the Chancellor say all that when they actually know what the NCAA knows if it were true?
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:54 pm to
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What I know is that I don't know what type of funds are set up to help our student athletes.
They get a full ride scholarship, free meals, free books/fees, free tutoring, top shelf nutritionists and personal fitness instructor in state of the art facilities. They get a free education, room & board. They also get a standard stipend and additional cost of living income.

There are no funds set up where the school pays for a student athletes parent's rent, utilities, lodging or meals.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:58 pm to
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What I know is that I don't know what type of funds are set up to help our student athletes[parents]


let me help you out here, there arent any "legal" ones
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31645 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:18 pm to
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let me help you out here, there arent any "legal" ones


+1

Momma needed to keep on doin what she'd been doin to make ends meet and keep the lights on.
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:18 pm to
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Would freeze, Bjork, and the Chancellor say all that when they actually know what the NCAA knows if it were true?

The lines are definitely drawn in the sand. There's not a lot of middle ground for anyone. In one year, either Freeze, Bjork, and the whole coaching staff will be gone, or this whole thing will have come to basically nothing.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31645 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:20 pm to
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Would freeze, Bjork, and the Chancellor say all that when they actually know what the NCAA knows if it were true?
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The lines are definitely drawn in the sand. There's not a lot of middle ground for anyone. In one year, either Freeze, Bjork, and the whole coaching staff will be gone, or this whole thing will have come to basically nothing.


Ole Miss >> "All In"! That strategy has worked for other programs in the past. Good luck!
Posted by PanhandleDawg
Navarre Beach, FL
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:22 pm to
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Give me an official source.


The Network has been shut down a.k.a. a black out.

Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:22 pm to
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Ole Miss >> "All In"! That strategy has worked for other programs in the past. Good luck!




You have to be, otherwise you are just laying down and waiting for the executioner in a case like this
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:27 pm to
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In one year, either Freeze, Bjork, and the whole coaching staff will be gone

possible

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or this whole thing will have come to basically nothing.

impossible. "nothing" would mean no penalties, and it is fairly safe to say that the NCAA won't take the self imposed recommendations from Ole Miss and say "nah. we're good. no penalties needed"
Posted by dores97
Member since Feb 2009
126 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:29 pm to
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There are no funds set up where the school pays for a student athletes parent's rent, utilities, lodging or meals.


"The Student Assistance Fund is intended to provide direct benefits to student-athletes or their families as determined by conference offices"

2 seconds on google. Try it sometime.

Now if this is how it was done, is it shady, yes. Against the rules? Doesn't look like it.
Posted by Volatile
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
6100 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:29 pm to
I heard 4 violations in other sports and 25 football violations.

Posted by Don Johnson
Member since Dec 2010
528 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:34 pm to
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Would freeze, Bjork, and the Chancellor say all that when they actually know what the NCAA knows if it were true?


I actually agree with a lot of what you said and believed the same, but they've lied again and again.

When the story first broke, they lied to recruits and the public about the number and severity of violations under Freeze.

I also thought I believed Bjork when he said it was over, then Pete Thamel writes this:

"In February, Ole Miss athletic director Ross Bjork incorrectly claimed that the investigation was over in an interview with the The Clarion Ledger, a statement NCAA officials viewed as inappropriate."


I used to believe y'all were working hand in hand with the NCAA and knew the outcome. Now, I'm leaning towards believing that y'all are going Auburn "All In" and just doubling down over and over with ridiculous denials that this is a big deal.
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