re: Biggest College Football Hall of Fame Snubs?

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but I think the drug issues and his dismissal from LSU

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This was Les Miles fault, if I remember correctly. I don't think he had to be let go from the team.

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This was Les Miles fault, if I remember correctly. I don't think he had to be let go from the team.

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wasn't Les' fault so much as the compliance office and AD. It went above Miles' head when that decision was made. Miles just delivered the news

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One answer and one answer only for coaches:

Johnny Majors

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Coach Requirements

Experience:: Served as a head coach for a minimum of 10 seasons and coached at least 100 games.

Winning Percentage: Achieved a career winning percentage of .595 or better (adjusted from .600 starting with the 2027 ballot).

Retirement/Age: Eligible three full seasons after retirement, immediately at age 70 if retired, or at age 75 if still active

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Johnny Majors’ career record is 185-137-10. That is a .575 winning percentage. He doesn’t meet the minimum winning percentage needed to be eligible. You can blame that on his time at Iowa State (24-30-1) and his second stint at Pittsburgh (45-45-1 overall; 12-32 his second time). His last four seasons at Pitt killed his chances. He finished his career there by going:

3-8
3-8
2-9
4-7

Had he just retired after Tennessee he would have a career record of 173-105-10; a .622 winning percentage; and would likely be in the college HOF.

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You would have? He made it on his second ballot I'm pretty sure.

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Yes, I would have put Mark Ingram in the college football hall of fame. He made it this year. Eight months ago though he would have been at the top of the list.

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could be, and might be the case for Newton with him being kicked out of Florida and Manziel's off the field issues as well

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Likely so. I don’t think they will ever elect Manziel. He still makes headlines for all the wrong reasons.

Newton is interesting. Yes he got kicked out of Florida for theft. And yes he got paid $200k to go to Auburn (which was very much against the rules at the time even if it seems like a bargain now). But since then he has only been guilty of being flamboyantly gay and not going for a fumble at his feet in the super bowl.

But he was one of the best and most impactful college players ever. He probably should be in, and that is from someone who has a severe dislike of both Auburn and Cam Newton. But the laptop, his smug “it’s an ongoing investigation” interview, and the fact he and Auburn embarrassed the NCAA may have gotten him blackballed by the committee.

He also has a media days championship now on his resume. No way they can keep him out of the hall of fame

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And even at Tennessee his winning percentage was only .651

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That alone is more than Leach did during his career. That doesn't even take into account another natty he had or the players he coached/assistant coaches he mentored.

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Gene Chizik and Ed Orgeron

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If you are equating Johnny Majors with those two goofballs then you have never watched football. He won more SEC titles and games then them put together lol

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There is no way that is worthy of inclusion in the hall of fame.

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Yet Shug Jordan, Paul Dietzel, Gene Stallings, Cholly Mac, Mike Leach, Mark Rhict, etc are all in the hof without as many trophies as Majors?

If Shug Jordan or Cholly Mac or Mark Rhict are in the hof then Majors should be too.
If Mike Leach goes into the hof then Majors should have been in decades ago

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This feels like a career achievement stat apropos with him being a QB under Mark Richt - lots of winning but nothing to show for it

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That is sort of what any hall of fame is based on - career achievement.

If the requirement is to have won a national championship then they will have to kick out the majority of the 1,129 players currently in the college hof.

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Wait? Why?

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You have to have been 1st team all American in one of the major selectors to be eligible

Has to be from one of:
Associated Press (AP)
American Football Coaches Association (AFCA)
Football Writers Association of America (FWAA)
The Sporting News (SN)
Walter Camp Football Foundation (WCFF)

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But that is not what inclusion is based on

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They obviously don't care about that because they have changed it solely to get Mike Leach into the Hall of Fame. So winning percentage is obviously something they view as flexible criteria.

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If Johnny Majors had won more games he would be in. But not only is his winning percentage less than 60%, he failed to even have a winning record 60% of the time.

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The exact same argument could be made for Mike Leach

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this resume should be in the hall of fame.

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- 1 Unanimous Natty as a HC
- 1 Natty as an assistant coach
- 2 NFL and CFB hof coached
- 3 SEC titles (6th most all time)
- 100 wins at an SEC school
- 17 First round draft picks
- took 3 different power conference programs to multiple bowl games
- coaching tree of: Fulmer, Cignetti, and Gruden
- National Coach of the Year
- Big 8 Coach of the Year
- SEC Coach of the Year

Yes, without a doubt, Majors had a lot bigger impact on football than most coaches in the Hall of Fame. If Leach is getting into the hof because of impact then no reason Majors shouldn't be either

Majors is in the hof at Iowa State, Pittsburgh, and Tennessee. If you are in the hall of fame at 3 different power conference programs, then you need to be in the College Football Hall of Fame.