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re: Bianco and LSU getting close - move could be made tomorrow.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:39 pm to BrerTiger
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:39 pm to BrerTiger
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We have LSU fans that seriously think floating Casey was another 4D chess smokescreen instead of an obviously naive tone-deaf flirtation that turned out exactly as one would expect it would?
I have no idea. The question was asked what would be the point of a smokescreen. Maybe he it was a serious move. Maybe it was just to get a feeling of what the fanbase would think about it.
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But I would bet the e-lives of everyone here that LSU did indeed seriously engage O'Sullivan, Casey and Bianco. Way too much smoke there. This "smokescreen" garbage is just a fiction of certain sports talk jocks and their ilk on the Tiger Rant. It's laughable to think LSU, even the sainted Woodward, is that good at manipulating the media.
I'm sure that he did seriously engage with all of them. I think he really wanted Sully. That doesn't mean that it the other two weren't just being done in the mean time until the real candidates were available.
Again, I have no clue what is going on. At one point I thought it was a done deal for Sully. Then I thought it was over 90% for Bianco. Now, there are differing reports from LSU and Ole Miss about what exactly is going on with Bianco. I think that the media is getting a bunch of different info. I wasn't saying that the interviews themselves were any kind of smokescreen.
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:44 pm to Quicksilver
Tomorrow tomorrow?
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:45 pm to Farmer1906
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Kendall swears up and down that that isn't the case.
Kendall will sometimes share things in order to keep sources. I think Sully may have a scandal on his hands shortly.
I 100% believe Woodward leaked Casey to Kendall to gauge fan reaction. Cohen did the same thing with Chizik last year (not Kendall obvi).
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:46 pm to hg
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Tomorrow tomorrow?
Timing may have been wrong but everyone else in the media thought the same apparently. Maybe they're paying attention to me though
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:47 pm to Quicksilver
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Maybe they're paying attention to me though
It wouldn't surprise me at this point.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:04 pm to Quicksilver
Stop trying to reason with farmer he confuses himself as is
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:18 pm to Quicksilver
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I 100% believe Woodward leaked Casey to Kendall to gauge fan reaction
So they wanted to see if LSU were serious when they unloaded on Casey in 2017 & 2018 over Heimlich?
Granted, Woodward wasn't at LSU then so he may honestly have been completely unaware. But he is most certainly aware of LSU's Title IX problems.
It was a horrificly tone-deaf move to even float Casey's name. Both parties quietly walked away and pretended it never happened.
And I say all this as a fan of both OSU (resident of Oregon for nearly 2 decades) and LSU (alumnus, life long fan) who thought Casey did nothing wrong (which almost no LSU fan agrees with). Heimlich's situation had already been adjudicated by the justice system long before he came to OSU. But that's ancient history. The point is that virtually no one disagrees that it would be terrible optics for LSU to hire Casey so why even float the idea?
There is 4D chess and then there's just WTF were you thinking?
I hope that Casey takes the hint and stays retired. He is a legend at Oregon State (rightfully so) and should just enjoy being celebrated for what he accomplished.
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I think Sully may have a scandal on his hands shortly.
Ya hate to see it.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:55 pm to BrerTiger
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The point is that virtually no one disagrees that it would be terrible optics for LSU to hire Casey so why even float the idea?
There is 4D chess and then there's just WTF were you thinking?
One other thought I had about this is that maybe Woodward was making it seem like the biggest names were interested to make the job look as desirable as possible. Is that the case? I have no clue.
I do know that when Woodward was hired that it was quick, nice and neat as was the Mulkey hire was. It really doesn't make a lot of sense that it's this sloppy for no reason.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 2:05 pm to TigerLunatik
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I do know that when Woodward was hired that it was quick, nice and neat as was the Mulkey hire was.
He had her locked up.
He ain't got nobody locked up this time.
Almost makes you think he didn't force Pawl to retire after all.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 2:10 pm to BrerTiger
He supposedly had Bianco locked up. That's kinda what I was getting at. I think he thought that he had Sully locked up and then it all went sideways then was back on again then got shut down by one side or the other or maybe both.
I don't think he forced Paul to retire at all. I think Paul physically couldn't do it anymore and that was causing him to not be able to be an effective coach anymore. I also think that if you got Paul in a moment of complete honesty he will tell you that he should have retired before the season.
I don't think he forced Paul to retire at all. I think Paul physically couldn't do it anymore and that was causing him to not be able to be an effective coach anymore. I also think that if you got Paul in a moment of complete honesty he will tell you that he should have retired before the season.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 2:12 pm to TigerLunatik
I think Woody had his man 99% locked up in Sully, but either couldn't convince everyone involved or missed the scandal when doing due diligence or Sully got cold feet. That is the type of big-time splash hire he's known for.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 2:20 pm to Farmer1906
I actually agree with this. Since there was a report that our board didn’t approve, I think it’s more likely Woodward missed something than Sully getting cold feet.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 2:21 pm to Farmer1906
It really wouldn't surprise me if LSU finally backed off Sully again and then he got tired of it too and just said "frick it I'll stay where I'm at." It's very possible that everyone was right the whole time and just got info from different sources.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 2:22 pm to TigerLunatik
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It really wouldn't surprise me if LSU finally backed off Sully again and then he got tired of it too and just said "frick it I'll stay where I'm at." It's very possible that everyone was right the whole time and just got info from different sources.
That actually makes sense.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 2:30 pm to Quicksilver
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Timing may have been wrong but everyone else in the media thought the same apparently.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 2:51 pm to TigerLunatik
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I also think that if you got Paul in a moment of complete honesty he will tell you that he should have retired before the season.
If 2020 had been a normal year, he might have.
Selfishly, I am glad It worked out as it did. I went to 4 of the 5 games LSU played in down in Eugene and savored it all. Got to hang out with the players after the games by the team bus. Voice was toast after yelling all weekend but worth it. It was a great Last Dance in Eugene and they gave it all they had. I was hoping he'd go out like Mike Martin but it wasn't in the cards and Vols got our number right now.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 2:54 pm to TigerLunatik
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It really wouldn't surprise me if LSU finally backed off Sully again and then he got tired of it too and just said "frick it I'll stay where I'm at." It's very possible that everyone was right the whole time and just got info from different sources.
The minute I saw that USA score I knew there was no way Sully would get hired.
But yeah, I think they were initially pushing hard to get him before getting cold feet.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 2:59 pm to BrerTiger
If the score of a single game made the decision then that is poor judgment. The guy has a decade of excellence behind his name. If it's "baggage" related, then I can believe that.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 3:03 pm to Farmer1906
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If the score of a single game made the decision then that is poor judgment. The guy has a decade of excellence behind his name. If it's "baggage" related, then I can believe that.
The baggage and rumors was likely the snowball rolling down the hill.
19-1 was the "frick it, not worth it" moment. And it was the whole regional. Total embarassment for a preseason #1 team.
I'm not hearing Sully mentioned for any other openings so it's not like he's a hot commodity now anyway. USA and USF did us a huge favor.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 3:18 pm to BrerTiger
Sully was legit, the baggage was just too much to overcome and push through
I think it’s gonna be Vitello at ~$2m+
1.5 offer/raise at UT is still unsigned
Pivot to Bianco/Godwin who are ready to go if they can’t seal the deal with Vitello or if he wins the CWS making it difficult/impossible to leave
I think it’s gonna be Vitello at ~$2m+
1.5 offer/raise at UT is still unsigned
Pivot to Bianco/Godwin who are ready to go if they can’t seal the deal with Vitello or if he wins the CWS making it difficult/impossible to leave
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 3:20 pm
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