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re: Best picture of PP Interception

Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:29 pm to
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

As great of a shot as that is, still frames never tell the whole story. I would love to see a video from that angle.


This photo shows possession in bounds with two hands on ball. The then makes a football move and touches another foot in bounds. You can get ball control on video. case closed.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36381 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

ARTICLE 4. No eligible offensive receiver who goes out of bounds during a
down shall touch a legal forward pass in the field of play or end zones or while
airborne until it has been touched by an opponent or official (A.R. 7-3-4-I-III).


He wasn't in the field of play, he was out of bounds.
Posted by Carlos Santannaclaus
Houston
Member since Jan 2008
3272 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:30 pm to
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If someone touches the ball who is out of bounds, it can't be intercepted by an opposing player.


Quit making up rules. That rule, even if it exists, would not extend to an interception. That makes no sense. Penalizing the defensive team for an interception because the offensive player commits a penalty? That is beyond absurd.
Posted by SloMeaux
Member since Sep 2004
23134 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:30 pm to
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Julio was in bounds, then went out of bounds as he touched it.


There's several pictures and videos. Which one shows Julio touching the ball out of bounds while PP has possession in bounds?
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28232 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

ARTICLE 4. No eligible offensive receiver who goes out of bounds during a
down shall touch a legal forward pass in the field of play or end zones or while
airborne
until it has been touched by an opponent or official (A.R. 7-3-4-I-III).



Skimmed over that little word there, eh?
Posted by Carlos Santannaclaus
Houston
Member since Jan 2008
3272 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:32 pm to
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There's several pictures and videos. Which one shows Julio touching the ball out of bounds while PP has possession in bounds?


Doesn't matter. That means that if Jones caught the ball it would be ruled incomplete. Since PP intercepted, it should not have mattered.
Posted by Carlos Santannaclaus
Houston
Member since Jan 2008
3272 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

There's several pictures and videos. Which one shows Julio touching the ball out of bounds while PP has possession in bounds?


Doesn't matter. That means that if Jones caught the ball it would be ruled incomplete. Since PP intercepted, it should not have mattered.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28232 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:33 pm to
So, again... 1 of 3 possibilities exist...

1. out of bounds Jones touched the ball first = illegal touching

2. in bounds Jones touched the ball first = irrelevant, just a regular play

3. Jones didn't touch the ball...which is actually what the video and pics show.


**keep in mind the call on the field WAS NOT that Jones touched the ball...so really this whole discussion is moot. That wasn't the call to begin with.
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 9:36 pm
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21561 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:33 pm to
Jones never touched it. Peterson was in front of him and reached forward and grabbed the ball of out midair and immediately secured it - the ball never moved out of his hands. Jones was in back of him and to the left.

Back and to the left.

Back and to the left.

The angle from the grassy knoll, er, stands clearly shows Peterson reaching out and securing the ball while Jones is falling away behind him . . .

Back and to the left.

Say it with me, "Back and to the left."
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
32733 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:33 pm to
wow some of you gumps are pathetic.
Posted by SloMeaux
Member since Sep 2004
23134 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:35 pm to
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Skimmed over that little word there, eh?


That appears to be a boom unless the Buckeye kid can counter.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36381 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:36 pm to
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All that said, it's pretty clear he didn't touch it,


To you, it looks like he didn't. To me, I'm unsure, at best, and they're needs to be conclusive evidence to overturn.

quote:

not to mention that was not the call.


Did the official or the SEC ever say that wasn't the reason? I don't think so. It's assumed that that wasn't it, but it very well could have been. And even if it wasn't, the result stays the same if it's called that way as the way it was originally called.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28232 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:37 pm to
The call on the field was an incomplete pass. It had nothing to do with Jones.

Posted by thebearisdead
STB Fairchild AFB Washington
Member since Sep 2009
3411 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

s it ever illegal touching when a guy runs an out route and catches it while out of bounds? No, it's just an incompletion.


The ball was still in bounds and in play while Julio, who was out, tried to make a play on it... Catching the ball out of bounds and going out of bounds only to make a play on the ball that is still in play are two different animals... But Julio didn't touch the ball so it doesn't matter anyway.. If the refs saw Julio touch the ball, they damn sure would have seen Peterson intercept it in bounds...


Eligibility Lost by Going Out of Bounds
ARTICLE 4. No eligible offensive receiver who goes out of bounds during a
down shall touch a legal forward pass in the field of play or end zones or while
airborne until it has been touched by an opponent or official (A.R. 7-3-4-I-III).
[Exception: This does not apply to an eligible offensive player who attempts
to return inbounds immediately after going out of bounds due to contact by an
opponent (A.R. 7-3-4-IV)].
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 9:41 pm
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

To you, it looks like he didn't. To me, I'm unsure, at best, and they're needs to be conclusive evidence to overturn.


I don't know how anyone can look at that picture and come to the conclusion that Jones somehow touched the ball. It's physically impossible from the positions of both of their bodies and the location of the ball. The stupidity on this board never ceases to amaze me.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73230 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:41 pm to
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Quit making up rules. That rule, even if it exists, would not extend to an interception. That makes no sense. Penalizing the defensive team for an interception because the offensive player commits a penalty? That is beyond absurd.



quote:

Ball Out of Bounds
ARTICLE 3. a. A ball not in player possession, other than a kick that scores a field goal, is out of bounds when it touches the ground, a player, a game official or anything else that is on or outside a boundary line.


Julio is out of bounds when he touches the ball simultaneously with Peterson. Even before Peterson could tuck the ball, the ball was dead. All of the photos trying to show possession fro Peterson are after Julio momentum takes him further out of bounds. This is why the video is more conclusive than a still frame.

Posted by SloMeaux
Member since Sep 2004
23134 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:41 pm to
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thebearisdead


I don't care who you are. That is one funny board name!
Posted by MSTIGER22
Jackson
Member since May 2007
689 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:41 pm to
asswragler Jones never touched the ball.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28232 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:43 pm to
Drop the "jones touch" crap ... it's just making you look like douches.

Posted by jtran1988
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2008
5612 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

thebearisdead I don't care who you are. That is one funny board name!


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