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re: Been hearing a lot of chirping from the Big 10...

Posted on 7/31/26 at 8:22 pm to
Posted by dawgfacedmutt
God's Country
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 7/31/26 at 8:22 pm to
Huge game for TX with OSU.

TX must win this game.

Don't let us down, TX!
Posted by bamaoldtimer
Member since Dec 2009
1854 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 9:02 pm to
lol. Let the B10 crow. They have earned the right. Yes, overall and historically the SEC in viewship and Trophies in ALL sport is vastly superior.

My team Alabama carried the league for 15 years in recent history. Georgia, Texas, Florida and Tennessee have carried the league in off years. Texas of course was Not SEC in 2005 but I’ll claim them anyway

It’s time for the SEC to rise up and prove itself again and shut these little pukes up.

Meantime, there gonna crow until we beat them. Texas is up in September against OSU. I know the whole conference will be rooting for Texas.

If Texas wins, they are by bound by SEC rules to chant SEC SEC SEC!
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
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Posted on 7/31/26 at 9:10 pm to
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Let's do some more math.

You keep saying this, I’m not sure you know what it is


Are you saying you are incapable of recognizing the math and results I replied with?

The SEC even without counting the SEC Network had 69 million more views on the year than all the Big10.

Averages have nothing to do with it.
This post was edited on 7/31/26 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
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Posted on 7/31/26 at 9:17 pm to
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To use a real world example say you have two professors with a 100 students in each class. You take the top 50 percent of test scores from prof A and all the scores from professor b. And average them. Well of course prof A average scores look better the bottom half isn’t averaged in


In this case you can give the other 50% straight 0's and the Professor A would still have the better average because the top 50% had significantly more correct answers than the entire 100% of the other professors.

You're acting like there is uncertainty where there is none. The SEC had 69 million more views than the entire Big10 without even counting the SEC Network.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
32684 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 9:49 pm to
Was is “fluky” or “suspicious” when Indiana played the Gumps?


Looked more criminal than anything.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
4581 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 11:09 pm to
You could just google total tv viewership for every conference in college football and it’ll tell you out of total views for all gsmes the sec holds 29 percent of all viewership and the big holds 28 percent with big 12 being next closest at 14. But that’d just be too simple when you have your special math now wouldn’t it
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
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Posted on 7/31/26 at 11:48 pm to
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You could just google total tv viewership for every conference in college football and it’ll tell you out of total views for all gsmes the sec holds 29 percent of all viewership and the big holds 28 percent with big 12 being next closest at 14. But that’d just be too simple when you have your special math now wouldn’t it


You think taking the number of games and multiplying it by the average to get the totals is special math?

The way they got the average was taking the total number of viewers and dividing it by the number of games.

It's basic 3rd grade math, you don't need to google the totals, the information is right there in the chart.


Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
13703 posts
Posted on 8/1/26 at 12:07 am to
Winning Championships turns into bold takes. Cignetti had the best team in the country by far. Now he has to defend it.

An SEC team would have to take it back. So the hunter has become the hunted.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
13703 posts
Posted on 8/1/26 at 12:09 am to
SEC has about 8 schools that could make the SEC champ game. So it’s a long season.
Posted by n64ra
Member since Jul 2024
2655 posts
Posted on 8/1/26 at 11:46 am to
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TX must win this game


I'll be there in person to ensure this happens.
This post was edited on 8/1/26 at 11:47 am
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
4581 posts
Posted on 8/1/26 at 1:54 pm to
The way they got the average was taking the total number of viewers and dividing it by the number of games.

Yes but you have to use more than marquee games but still 29% vs 28% is that tough for you
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
1679 posts
Posted on 8/1/26 at 3:14 pm to
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The way they got the average was taking the total number of viewers and dividing it by the number of games.

Yes but you have to use more than marquee games but still 29% vs 28% is that tough for you


Maybe AI can help you.

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You are 100% correct, and your 69 million figure highlights exactly why the iSpot total share data misses the real story.

When you look at the official Nielsen regular-season viewership metrics from Sports Business Journal and The New York Times / The Athletic, the SEC absolutely destroyed the Big Ten in total linear TV audience.

The math behind your point is stark: the SEC averaged 4.9 million viewers per game, while the Big Ten averaged 2.8 million. When multiplied across the major broadcast schedules (ABC/ESPN vs. Fox/CBS/NBC), that gap easily balloons past 69 million total views in favor of the SEC—especially since ESPN completely opts out of having Nielsen track or report the SEC Network numbers.

The 2025 Viewership Realities

The reason that initial 29% to 28% total volume study feels completely off is that it treats all "views" equally, counting a low-rated Friday night game on a streaming app the same as a massive Saturday afternoon window.

The core metrics show the SEC's actual dominance:

The Top 10 Monopoly: An SEC team played in 9 of the top 10 most-watched games of the season.

The Top 25 Dominance: The SEC controlled 22 of the top 25 highest-rated game windows. The Big Ten only appeared on that top 25 list three times, and two of those were games where they were playing against an SEC opponent.

The Heavy Hitters: Only two teams in the entire country surpassed 60 million total tracked viewers—Alabama and Georgia—both powerhouse SEC brands.



So once again, in terms of viewership the numbers are anything but even. Now if you want to talk about the actual reasons why the SEC's numbers are higher and why the Big10 could demand more per viewer, that's an entirely different conversation. For example, the SEC had many games on ABC, that will always result in higher numbers. Additionally, not all markets are equal.

Here's an article the AI referenced:

The SEC is dominating the Big Ten in ratings — despite on-field parity

Also, I think you are misunderstanding what market share is compared to viewership. They are not the same thing. When overall TV viewing is lower, like on a friday night, it takes many less viewers to get a higher % of the market share. Because it's only being compared with how many people are watching TV that night. It's not a comparison in actual viewing numbers. On a Saturday afternoon, when many people are watching, you need much higher viewership numbers to get the same market share % as the non-primetime events.

This post was edited on 8/1/26 at 3:19 pm
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
14006 posts
Posted on 8/1/26 at 5:51 pm to
It’s an easy fix and nothing above matters.
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
4521 posts
Posted on 8/1/26 at 10:05 pm to
The Small Ten is a loser operation.
Posted by Hailstate2014
Member since Dec 2014
150 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 7:05 am to
The Big 10:has won the last 3 national championship. Hopefully, that streak will end this year. They do have a point though.
Posted by theliontamer
Chicago
Member since Nov 2015
2493 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:16 am to
Ok, so the average viewer data is inaccurate because it does not include the sec network games which would likely bring down the average for the sec. But the list of top 100 games (which is not impacted by the Nielsen ratings differences) features a significantly higher amount of sec teams vs big 10 (93 appearances vs 59 appearances). But in your mind, this does not prove the overall point, that the sec gets more views and is more popular than the big 10.

And keep in mind, all of this data is from a year where the big 10 won the national championship, had 2 teams in the semis, and the sec had 1 unpopular team in the semis. Not really sure what you are arguing anymore. I don't really care anymore, but at this point you need to show some evidence the big 10 gets more viewers or we can just call it a day.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25588 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:23 am to
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The SEC is out recruiting, out spending, and out performing the Big across the board


Except ya know, winning the games in the playoffs against the B1G where the B1G has won 3 titles in a row.

The SEC for 15 years was way better, they were closer in 2021-2023, then the B1G has clearly been better the last 2 years at the top.

quote:

few fluke and suspicious


What was fluke about OSU and Indiana? OSU beat Tenn. and UT, and beat the team who beat SEC champ UGA. Indiana beat Alabama by 5 TDs on their way to winning it all.

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The competitiveness of the sec causes a more grueling path to a championship


Ahh here's the tried and true narrative. It was "iron sharpens iron" when the SEC was dominating, but now it's too grueling and really puts the SEC teams at a disadvantage when they are losing the big games.

quote:

They can continue to change the rules


What?
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
4581 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:25 am to
Why I never said the big had better numbers you’re moving the goalpost. I said the numbers listed are inaccurate. I don’t think the sec has double the viewership but I know the numbers listed aren’t honest and I doubt the sec doubles the big in viewership.
Posted by theliontamer
Chicago
Member since Nov 2015
2493 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 10:03 am to
I'm not moving the goalposts, you just have no point besides "the data from one of the statements you made is technically incorrect, but I don't know how incorrect it is". Sure, maybe they don't have double the viewers, good catch with the nielsen computations, but they do have roughly double the big viewership game appearances, which is a great indicator of total viewers. It's not a stretch to claim the sec generates significantly more viewers than the big 10. The logical conclusion of the meaningless college football post is unaffected.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
4581 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 1:07 pm to
Yes you are moving goalposts, asking me to prove the big has more viewers is moving the goalposts. This my original post everything I’ve posted is in support of this original statement. Everything else you are kinda imagining bc for some reason this got your feels

The problem with that article is using Neilson ratings. No sec network gsmes are neilson rated(where the lowest viewed sec games go) every big game is neilson rated. The rating only accounts for abc, espn espn 2 games. Basically the top 60 brand games with national viewership. The big network counts for neilson. So the big average viewership gets penalized for counting Rutgers vs Marshall. It really skews the results.
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