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re: Bear Bryant vs General Neyland

Posted on 12/24/21 at 11:39 am to
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/24/21 at 11:39 am to
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The guy with six AP and/or UPI natties.


Or the guy Knute Rockne thought was the greatest? Hmmm sportswriters vs. Rockne. Whose opinion should we value?
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/24/21 at 11:44 am to
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Or the guy Knute Rockne thought was the greatest? Hmmm sportswriters vs. Rockne. Whose opinion should we value?


Again, I’m gonna go with the guy who won all the trophies. Want to talk SEC titles?

Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6768 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 11:45 am to
Coach Bryant at Alabama.

Coach Neyland was a very good coach, disciplined as were his teams. I think Coach Bryant pulled a bit of Coach Thomas and a bit of Coach Neyland when he was coaching.


Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
44836 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 11:56 am to
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Coach Bryant at Alabama.

Coach Neyland was a very good coach, disciplined as were his teams. I think Coach Bryant pulled a bit of Coach Thomas and a bit of Coach Neyland when he was coaching.



Bear referenced Neyland quite a lot. He was the coach's coach but he never gained the same popularity outside of coaching. Much of that was due to bias against southern football that didn't fade until the BCS although exceptions would be made for Bear and BAMA at a later point. Neyland never really had the opportunity to capitalize on that.

That said, he did get knighted so who needs sportswriters.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68289 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 11:57 am to
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Or the guy Knute Rockne thought was the greatest?


Rockne died before Bryant had even graduated high school.
Posted by Yaz 8
Member since Jun 2020
1249 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 12:07 pm to
The GOAT program has broken you.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30812 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 12:20 pm to
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Bear..he eventually realized he was wrong about integration,



You obviously don't have a clue about Coach Bryant's view of integrating his team. You might want to do a little research before displaying your ignorance on the subject.
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
11411 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 12:43 pm to
Dock Rone, a black walk on player had actually made the team after spring practice in 1967. In an interview with Rone, he said Coach Bryant once even gave him a ride to practice. Unfortunately a a family circumstance caused Rone to drop out of school over the summer, and he was later drafted into the military and never played college football.

LINK
Posted by VolsUberAlles
Member since Feb 2021
1724 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 12:44 pm to
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Good on both men for realizing they were wrong. Neyland never did


He wasn't wrong, to be fair.
Posted by Crocstalker14
Saraland
Member since Aug 2017
50 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 2:20 pm to
Exactly, that wasn't done in neyland day
Posted by TheFourHorsemen
Next door to Ric Flair
Member since Jul 2021
4585 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 2:45 pm to
That is a lie
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 3:01 pm to
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He wasn't wrong, to be fair.

Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 3:02 pm to
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Bear referenced Neyland quite a lot. He was the coach's coach but he never gained the same popularity outside of coaching. Much of that was due to bias against southern football that didn't fade until the BCS although exceptions would be made for Bear and BAMA at a later point. Neyland never really had the opportunity to capitalize on that.

Neyland didn't have a winning record against final ranked teams.
Posted by Vols98
Miami
Member since Oct 2021
848 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 4:17 pm to
Not saying Neyland is better but Bear Bryant said he learned everything from Neyland. For those of you saying who is Neyland - he is one of the best coaches of all time and left twice to go fight for our country in the middle of his prime. An absolute legend
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
18412 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 5:47 pm to
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I imagine they'd lean on their assistants quite heavily, as both would be coaching from the box
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68600 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 7:57 pm to
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Good on both men for realizing they were wrong. Neyland never did

Neyland died about a decade before black football players were recruited by anyone in the SEC and before the Civil Rights movement in the United States. Take your virtue signaling elsewhere
This post was edited on 12/24/21 at 8:11 pm
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
4773 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 9:20 pm to
Bear in a heart beat.

Neyland was a great coach but he was a whiner too.

State beat UT 7-0 in 1950 to give them their only loss of the season and it cost then the National Championship. The General vowed that would never bring a team back to Starkville as if the location of the game the reason that the Vols lost. Maybe, just maybe State was the better team that day.

Tennessee adhered to his word as it would be over 35 years before UT would make a trip back to Scott Field.

Ironically in 1950 Kentucky, who was coached by the Bear only had one loss for the season. By guess who? Yep that is right Tennessee.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
10260 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 9:27 pm to
The bear never beat the general


The general wasn't around long when Bryant went to Ttown. Lots of Tennessee coaches beat the Kentucky coaches.
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 9:30 pm to
Tennessee fans want SOOOOO badly to make it a 1 to 1 comparison between that guy and the Bear.

Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
10260 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 9:32 pm to
"Good on both men for realizing they were wrong. Neyland never did"

Neither men had a say in integrating their teams. Just like Dooley didn't until 1971, which fell in line with all other sec teams integrating.
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