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re: Bama's Cam Robinson, Hootie Jones Arrested on Felony stolen handgun and drugs

Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:25 am to
Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
USA
Member since May 2014
4641 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:25 am to
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Possession of a handgun and weed also carries a minimum 5 year sentence in Louisiana



I don't see how they will be able to get back in school at Bama. No school means no football.

Might as well move on from these two knuckleheads.
Posted by Iron Lion
Romulus
Member since Nov 2014
13886 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:34 am to
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Might as well move on from these two knuckleheads

Agree 100 percent
Posted by Shakita Bonita
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Member since Dec 2015
1538 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:42 am to
The only new information I see says that the "owner" of the handgun stole it and Cam was in possession of it

Doesn't matter if Cam didn't steal it, he was in possession of it.
Posted by MrCoachKlein
Member since Sep 2010
10310 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:45 am to
No shite, huh
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 1:47 am
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 2:56 am to
If the gun was stolen in Alabama, and it ends up in louisiana, this goes from a backwater town deal to a federal interstate trafficking case, you can't take a stolen gun across state lines. I'm not even sure you can take a legal one honestly. If that's the case, the ball game is over, there is very little the feds take more seriously than gun charges. He'll do every fricking calendar day of 5 years, minimum. They do not care who bought it, who didn't buy it, the feds will throw everyone who was in the car in jail and not blink twice. Now they can say they got two hardened criminals off the streets instead of one.


And they better pray to God they didn't transport the drugs, weed or not, across state lines along with the stolen handgun. If this is the case he might not get out of prison until his nfl window is closed




If you buy drugs or a handgun, never take it to a different state than you bought it. The draconian interstate drug trafficking laws will long dick style you every time. There is plea, no probation they want you in a jail cell so they can tell people they are getting guns off the streets
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 2:58 am
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16242 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:28 am to
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If you buy drugs or a handgun, never take it to a different state than you bought it.


You can legally travel with a legally owned gun with no issues.
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
6141 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 5:27 am to
Just got a chance to look it up. The law in LA is possession with intent to sale within 2000 ft of a school. The Drug Free Zone law also covers within 2000 ft of housing projects, daycare facilities, drug treatment facilities, and religious facilities.

The penalties are automatic maximum fine allowed plus up to 1.5 times maximum sentence. The only limitation is if the offense takes place in a private residence and no children under 18 are present.

AL's law is retarded!!! The law only covers sale, but it covers a radius of almost 3 miles from a school or housing project and carries a 5 year mandatory minimum with no possibility of parole. There are also no limitations on the law.
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 5:52 am
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
6141 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 5:29 am to
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Doesn't matter if Cam didn't steal it, he was in possession of it


Yep...doesn't the old saying go, "Possession is 9/10 of the law."
Posted by Jeauxseph
Cenla
Member since Jan 2011
447 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 7:48 am to
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I love it. Keep fricking up Bama and A&M. Let ole miss coast through this shite storm.


There ya go! Keep your head up butter cup!
Posted by bignic26
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2013
890 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 7:50 am to
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Folks on here have said Monroe is very dangerous and the park they were hanging in had potential for a drug deal to go down at late night.


Nobody who lives or has ever lived in Monroe said that Forsythe Park after dark is dangerous. This is more than likely something you just made up before you typed it.

No reputable drug dealer is going to schedule a meeting at Forsythe in the wee hours of the morning.

The only thing going on at Forsythe after dark is casual, anonymous homosexual activities. Maybe they didn't know that. Maybe they did. We don't know yet.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26970 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 8:04 am to
Why are two D1 football players sitting in a car smoking dope with guns on their lap?
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16163 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 8:05 am to
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If the gun was stolen in Alabama, and it ends up in louisiana, this goes from a backwater town deal to a federal interstate trafficking case, you can't take a stolen gun across state lines.


Once again, just as with the state charge it only becomes a crime if the person transporting the firearm knew or should have suspected it was stolen. Read it for yourself right here.

Also, from a practical standpoint, the DOJ doesn't usually take up cases like this one unless the local prosecuting authority asks them to get involved and even then they say no a lot. They're after bigger fish than a couple of dumbasses smoking weed in a park.

The players are still stupid as frick and they still have big (particularly Robinson) legal problems, but their chance of facing any Federal prosecution is way less than 1%.
Posted by BammerDelendaEst
Member since Jan 2014
2212 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 8:06 am to
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You can legally travel with a legally owned gun with no issues.


Not necessarily true. You need to check the law, state-by-state.

Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16163 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 8:06 am to
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Why are two D1 football players sitting in a car smoking dope with guns on their lap?


When faced with complex questions, look to the most obvious answer, which in this case is that they're dumb as frick.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16163 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 8:13 am to
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Not necessarily true. You need to check the law, state-by-state.


Actually, it is true for all states so long as you follow the guidelines of the Federal Firearms Owners’ Protection Act (called FOPA). The law says you can transport a firearm from anywhere that weapon is legal to possess to anywhere it is legal to possess as long as it is unloaded and locked out of reach.

That's not to say some local cop won't arrest you if you're driving across New York with that AR in your trunk, but it will not stick.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8921 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 8:26 am to
Just got the full skinny on what actually happened.

I heard Cam witnessed a mugger holding an old woman at gunpoint. He took the gun from the criminal and then he and Hootie stopped at the park to google the nearest police station so he could turn the gun into the police. The weed was for the old woman's glaucoma and she accidentally left it in the car after he gave her a ride home. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. This kid deserves an award, not jail time.
Posted by Islander
Orange Beach, AL
Member since Aug 2012
247 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 8:27 am to
So these two dumbasses are gay in addition to being monumentally stupid?

Good riddance.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51894 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 8:30 am to
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The law says you can transport a firearm from anywhere that weapon is legal to possess to anywhere it is legal to possess as long as it is unloaded and locked out of reach.


So, they were actually in violation of the act. Technically.

I do agree that federal charges are highly unlikely. The only way something like that comes down the pike is if there's evidence that Cam did know the gun was stolen when he purchased it.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 8:30 am to
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Posted by prevatt33 ? on 5/17/16 at 10:59 am toSummerOfGeorge

Not replying to anyone in particular, but to the mountain of folks jumping to conclusions: 

1) Innocent until proven guilty. Yes, this is still true in the US. And it should be especially forward in everyone's minds given the amount of police corruption and the average quality of human that goes into police work. 

2) Regarding the "facts" of the case as they now seem: From personal experience, just because a police report states something, does not mean it actually happened. Given the structure of the system, cops have a license to lie and frequently do. Personally, I highly doubt Jones had a gun on his lap when police walked up. Cops just trying to makes charges stick. 

3) There are a thousand unknowns that change the situation: 

Two bags of weed means nothing. It doesn't create any semblance of distribution. Two guys each had their own weed. It's common courtesy for smokers to have your own. How much weed was in each bag? 

Regarding the guns, were they loaded? Were there bullets in the car for said guns? "No" to either of these questions creates a lot of wiggle room for attorneys when dealing. 

How were they dressed? All black head-to-toe? Or shorts and flipflops? 

Did they cooperate? 

Where was the parking lot? Was it next door to where they were staying? Did they have a logical reason to be at that location?

Who does the car belong to? Were the keys even in the car, or were they just sitting there cause they couldn't smoke in the house/apt where they were staying? 

4) Being awake at 2AM is not a crime, and is common practice for anyone their age. For folks that age, 2am is is their parents' generation 10pm. 

5) In the evidence that I have, the least trustable entities in this situation are the police officers. The 2 arrestees have demonstrated the ability to attend a good university for a period of years and attend class, keep grades good enough to stay in school, and play a sport. Both, to my knowledge, have never been in trouble before. 

I do not have the same knowledge of the police officers. All I know is that they are employed as cops, and that means nothing with regard to the quality of person. Did they go to college? They could have had charges in the past themselves. They could have been the subject of internal reprimand. Point being, in many places in the US dirty cops outnumber good cops. Just another unknown at this time. 

My overall point is this. WE DON"T HAVE ALL THE FACTS AND ANYONE WHO JUMPS TO CONCLUSIONS BASED OFF OF A FEW MEDIA SNIPPETS BASED OFF SOLELY THE POLICE REPORTS ARE BEING SH!TTY HUMANS. Is it good? Nope. Should |Robinson and Jones have made different decisions? Yes. But a thousand scenarios are possible, and not one of you knows the truth. 

There is no defense for one human judging another without all the facts, and any Christian who does this needs a refresher on scripture.




From the Bama board.
I agree with this assessment 100%
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 8:33 am to
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From the Bama board. I agree with this assessment 100%


Well, as my response to him indicated, I do not agree with that assessment 100%
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