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re: Bama gonna have a nasty defense again, finally.

Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:15 pm to
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And John Parker Wilson, and Greg Mcelroy


True
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52621 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:16 pm to
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Cherry pick years, you did.


Turn of the century.

LSU was basically irrelevant before 2000 most of the time.
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:17 pm to
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Bama gonna have a nasty defense again,


Yea, and I've been told that A1 offense will be just as good!

Also, A1 has a nasty taste in their mouth after losing the NC....I mean, losing the NC, then getting curb stomped by LSU and Aub...they will be extra motivated...we've never seen A1 team this motivated
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:18 pm to
We all do it in a way to make our teams look good as possible.


But I think 2010 should be where we start from.
Posted by TheGusBus34
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2014
1635 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:20 pm to
congrats of your best team in history beating us by 3
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52621 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:21 pm to
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congrats of your best team in history beating us by 3


Congrats on your best team in your history beating us by 7
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:22 pm to
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You didn’t want to respond to the part about our offense going forward?


Your offense going forward is an enigma that isn't worth speculating over yet. Me saying it'll go back to the miles offense isn't any more accurate or inaccurate than you saying it won't miss a beat.

The only major change in 2019 compare to 2018 is Joe Brady and Jorge Munoz. Same skill guys, same QB, same HC, same OC. Brady comes in as the passing game coordinator and calls plays inside the 12. Munoz works with the grad school QB.

Brady, Munoz, and Burrow are all gone. I'm not sure why you expect a similar offense to the one last year. Ensminger has a pretty long track record of coaching football. If you can't admit that it was Brady pulling the offense out of the stone age then I don't know what to tell you, it's a matter of constants and variables.

Expecting Ensminger to just be some offensive whiz now is like expecting to print out an Emeril recipe off the internet and have the dish taste the same as it does when the man himself prepares it. I don't expect short side options and toss dives to be the staple of the offense, but I expect it to look a lot more like 2018 than 2019, because the 2018 staff is now the one doing it with a new Quarterback.
Posted by Crimsontide1713
Member since Dec 2019
2627 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:23 pm to
Let’s compare current coaches then.

Alabama under Saban vs L8U: 11-4

L8U under Ed Oregon vs Alabama: 1-3


I sense a trend!
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 1:27 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52621 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:24 pm to
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Ensminger has a pretty long track record of coaching football. 


Three years of being an OC at major programs outside of LSU?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52621 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:25 pm to
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L8U under Ed Oregon vs Alabama: 1-3


Personally I dont tend to count interim years since the interim guy has really no control over a lot of the variables such as staffing and designing an offense/defense but you do you.
Posted by Crimsontide1713
Member since Dec 2019
2627 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:28 pm to
Orgeron was the one that promoted Ensminger to OC
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52621 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:30 pm to
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Orgeron was the one that promoted Ensminger to OC


OK? Your point?
Posted by Crimsontide1713
Member since Dec 2019
2627 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:30 pm to
From his wikipedia page-

Orgeron stated that he was going to "flip the script". He promoted tight ends coach Steve Ensminger to offensive coordinator and brought back Pete Jenkins to take over as defensive line coach. Orgeron also decided to shorten practices and spend more time in the film room in order to keep players fresh. In addition, he brought the "theme of daily practices" he modeled from coach Pete Carroll during Orgeron's first stint as an assistant at USC. These practice days have descriptive nicknames like Tell the Truth Monday, Competition Tuesday, Turnover Wednesday, No Repeat Thursday, and Focus Friday.
Posted by SickGainzLP
Member since May 2019
1230 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:31 pm to
Stop living in the past
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52621 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:32 pm to
You think thats all that goes into being a head coach?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84859 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:33 pm to
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Brady, Munoz, and Burrow are all gone. I'm not sure why you expect a similar offense to the one last year. Ensminger has a pretty long track record of coaching football. If you can't admit that it was Brady pulling the offense out of the stone age then I don't know what to tell you, it's a matter of constants and variables.

Expecting Ensminger to just be some offensive whiz now is like expecting to print out an Emeril recipe off the internet and have the dish taste the same as it does when the man himself prepares it. I don't expect short side options and toss dives to be the staple of the offense, but I expect it to look a lot more like 2018 than 2019, because the 2018 staff is now the one doing it with a new Quarterback.


Your hypothesis is essentially that Joe Brady is a transcendent offensive mind for our time. While possible, that’s far less likely than he’s just a good coach who came in and showed us how to utilize our athletes properly in 2019 after being stuck in the Stone Age.

If we weren’t replacing that position on the staff then yeah, I’d be concerned about a major regression, but that’s not happening and I don’t know that Brady is all that irreplaceable.

Yes, Burrow was a generational player, I don’t think you’ll find any LSU fans expecting us to break records next year, but the thing with LSU has always been that if we figured out how to utilize our athletes, look out. Now that we’ve done that I don’t know why you’d expect us to go back to the old way of doing things, it was always going to take a few years post-Miles to recalibrate who we were recruiting to best fit a modern scheme, now we’re there.

Do you think O and E are just going to say frick it, let’s dig up the old playbook? That or they are so incompetent as to not recognize they need to bring someone else in with a similar background?
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Crimsontide1713
Member since Dec 2019
2627 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:35 pm to
Seems like he did have a lot of control over staffing and designing the offense/defense
Posted by Crimsontide1713
Member since Dec 2019
2627 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:36 pm to
Oh sorry, let’s ignore that.

He’s only 1-2 against Alabama!
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52621 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:37 pm to
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Seems like he did have a lot of control over staffing and designing the offense/defense


Are you retarded?

Serious question.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:39 pm to
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Bama hasn't beaten a good team in years. Next year we are in Tiger Stadium and Bama will have either Mac Jones or an undersized teenager at the helm.

tFear
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