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re: Bama fans, please provide your best reason why you think you deserve

Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by bingo
indy-freakin'-anna
Member since Sep 2008
4209 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:06 pm to
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We lose, we lose the ticket to the MNC


i'm beginning to think that you have not looked at the polls or paid attention to any of the bcsncg besides what is said on this board.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9537 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:11 pm to
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Neither of y'all got that...really?
Whos better than Bama and deserves to be #2 over them...


Fans like you are refreshing. You get it and look at things logically. I don't understand why anti-rematch folks can't understand that it's about finding the #1 and the #2 teams. #1 is a given so that team is set. Now we have to find #2. You don't find #2 by comparing them to #1. You find #2 by comparing the contenders for #2 with each other. Anti-rematch people are essentially penalizing Alabama by comparing them to #1 when the other contenders for #2 AREN'T being compared to #1. How ridiculous is that. Alabama is looked at as unworthy because we already know that they're not the #1 team while Okie State isn't penalized because we DON'T know how they stack up against #1. It's a completely irrational, illogical and not to mention an extremely unfair way of comparing teams.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56091 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:11 pm to
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i'm beginning to think that you have not looked at the polls or paid attention to any of the bcsncg besides what is said on this board


I am fully aware that many think LSU should be crowned AP champ after going 13-0

and I am fully aware that some think LSU will get in the MNC game even if they lose to UGA.

I just want LSU to win out and not worry about what if's.

My thread is about fairness around the CFB landscape.

I can see that Alabama is a great team this year.

But there are great teams around the country and we can brag all we want about the SEC...but once you have one team in the MNC game, why do you need another team from that conference?

It makes no sense even if Alabama passes the eyeball test...because lets be honest, that's all it is...Penn st and Kent state...give me a break...that doesn't tell us much
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:13 pm to
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LOL!


Not really sure why you think it is funny. If you look at the coaches and harris numbers, then you realize they almost got every second place vote. OSU is fifth in the coaches poll. The human voters don't think OSU is better than Stanford or Va Tech. If Va Tech wins this week, then OSU probably has very little shot.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12781 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:15 pm to
Is WVU any better than Penn State, come on. Most experts do not even feel that the Big East should get a bid to the BCS this year. Keep reaching.
Posted by natethegreat
Member since Dec 2008
788 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:17 pm to
So basically, Bama will continue to think they're better regardless if we win or lose.

They will meet us in the championship game because they are #2. It is unfortunate that we have to play them again, but it's how the system works.

I also feel that many people aren't taking stock of just how good we've gotten. Many people will be quite surprised come January.

It's almost like people are scared LSU can't pull it off again. They can, and they will. And hey, if it's close once again, this championship very well might just be split. We're sitting mighty pretty right now.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56091 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:17 pm to
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Not really sure why you think it is funny. If you look at the coaches and harris numbers, then you realize they almost got every second place vote. OSU is fifth in the coaches poll. The human voters don't think OSU is better than Stanford or Va Tech. If Va Tech wins this week, then OSU probably has very little shot.


If OSU beats OU...then the will have beaten 3 more top 25 teams than Alabama and they would be a conference champion.

From a pure, National Championship point of view, this would be ideal.

LSU plays UGA = SEC champ game

LSU vs. Bama redo = SEc champ game, not MNC game

It's all wrong guys...all wrong
Posted by bingo
indy-freakin'-anna
Member since Sep 2008
4209 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:17 pm to
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My thread is about fairness around the CFB landscape.


well then save your breath and write to the ncaa and the bcs and whomever. this is the system your alma mater, my alma mater and all of the rest of the teams who want to be in the big game signed off on. do you expect alabama to decline an invitation to the bcsng b/c you or anyone else does not agree with the way the championship is determined?

we may not make it in, the people who have an actual say in this will vote. and that, will be that.
Posted by Bwbama
Member since Oct 2011
349 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:18 pm to
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It makes no sense even if Alabama passes the eyeball test...because lets be honest, that's all it is...Penn st and Kent state...give me a break...that doesn't tell us much


Most people with eyeballs watched the game on November 5 and saw LSU fail to score a touchdown. They also have seen Bama and LSU destroy the same teams in virtually identical fashion. Bottom line is people with eyeballs can envision these two teams being the clear cut bests with very little separation between them.

You're an idiot.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12781 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:18 pm to
The fact is if UA plays LSU they deserved it by doing what they needed to do to get after they lost to LSU and because every other team from every other conference failed to do the same.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56091 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:19 pm to
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Is WVU any better than Penn State, come on. Most experts do not even feel that the Big East should get a bid to the BCS this year. Keep reaching.


We whipped Oregon, they are pretty darn good

We have beaten 6 ranked teams
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:19 pm to
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If OSU beats OU...then the will have beaten 3 more top 25 teams than Alabama and they would be a conference champion. From a pure, National Championship point of view, this would be ideal. LSU plays UGA = SEC champ game LSU vs. Bama redo = SEc champ game, not MNC game It's all wrong guys...all wrong


OSU is ranked 5th by the humans. They lost to Iowa State. It's all wrong guy... all wrong.
Posted by secftw
FL
Member since Jan 2010
3311 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:21 pm to
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Bama fans, please provide your best reason why you think you deserve a rematch (if it happens).


No.

We are in position to get in. That's all you need to know and it's time to deal with it.
Posted by natethegreat
Member since Dec 2008
788 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:22 pm to
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The fact is if UA plays LSU they deserved it by doing what they needed to do to get after they lost to LSU and because every other team from every other conference failed to do the same.


Correct. You guys kept it close, and are the only team to test the number 1 team in the country. No other team could take care of business, so this is now the setup.

Goodluck in the dome.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56091 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:24 pm to
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Most people with eyeballs watched the game on November 5 and saw LSU fail to score a touchdown. They also have seen Bama and LSU destroy the same teams in virtually identical fashion. Bottom line is people with eyeballs can envision these two teams being the clear cut bests with very little separation between them.

You're an idiot.


NO, LSU won the game...

We are playing an additional game against a worthy opponent.

I think you are the idiot...because you can't look past your desire to beat LSu for all the marbles though you didn't earn the right to do so based on the fact you finished 2nd to LSU in your division and conference

Posted by bingo
indy-freakin'-anna
Member since Sep 2008
4209 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:25 pm to
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We are in position to get in. That's all you need to know and it's time to deal with it.


i like a statement that is both succinct and undeniably true.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56091 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:25 pm to
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No.

We are in position to get in. That's all you need to know and it's time to deal with it.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:28 pm to
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more complex answer - because other than LSU everyone else has some flaws with their team. the other one loss teams have flaws that are greater than Bama's. Their loses are all considerably worse than Bama's OT loss.


and yet the other main contender has a MUCH better total body of work. ironic.

It's looking like a rematch is on the way unless Oklahoma St beats OU and VT loses to Clemson. But it's on name brand alone -- and it has zero to do with accomplishments. When your best accomplishment is a loss to LSU, it speaks volumes. Oklahoma St (provided they beat Oklahoma, which I doubt) will have beaten twice the amount of top-20 teams that Alabama has. It's a nonissue for Alabama fans.. unless Okie Lite wins and VT loses (IMO).

I'd rather play a team that LSU didn't beat this season.. and when that team has a better resume than the team LSU already beat.. seems like a no brainer to me. In the event of a rematch, I expect LSU to show up and not make the same mistakes last time that allowed the game to be close.
This post was edited on 11/28/11 at 5:34 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56091 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:32 pm to
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Oklahoma St (provided they beat Oklahoma, which I doubt) will have beaten twice the amount of top-20 teams that Alabama has.


I think OSU is going to run OU this year in Stillwater

OU doesn't have their best WR....btw....big loss
Posted by secftw
FL
Member since Jan 2010
3311 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:33 pm to
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and yet the other main contender has a MUCH better total body of work. ironic.


Hey everyone...we beat a couple more ranked teams.

Nevermind that the other guys have a win over a top 10 team...and nevermind we lost to an unranked nobody...just look at the total number of teams we beat outside of the top 10.

That's all that matters.
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