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Posted on 10/21/13 at 11:42 am to genro
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I think Auburn if they have Malzahn for the long haul could be similar to Leach at TTU. They won't be Oregon, but their attack will give most teams trouble. A consistent 10-win team, and occasional dark-horse NC contender
Not biting
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ETA: I'm also aware that Auburn beat Oregon 3 years ago. But my point was they won't be contenders every single year like Oregon. So you can save it.
Does not compute. New coach at Oregon with same talent, which is what you're using to hold on to some present hope that Malzahn suddenly becomes a 'coach that can't win the big one.' They do not out-recruit Auburn either. I give you 3/10 on the effort.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:00 pm to IAmReality
The biggest problem with Auburn this year is that they lack that decidedly unlikable character on the coaching staff and don't have any controversial players to hate.
Trooper Taylor was way too easy to hate. Cam and Farily were villians dyed in the wool.
This Auburn team is too damned likable, especially after the A&M win. I'm sure the fans will make up for that soon enough though.
Trooper Taylor was way too easy to hate. Cam and Farily were villians dyed in the wool.
This Auburn team is too damned likable, especially after the A&M win. I'm sure the fans will make up for that soon enough though.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:01 pm to CrimsonCoast
quote:hate Jake Holland like we do.
The biggest problem with Auburn this year is that they lack that decidedly unlikable character on the coaching staff and don't have any controversial players to hate.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:05 pm to IAmReality
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I see Auburn's success more as an indictment of Chizik than Malzhan being super awesome.
Auburn's turnaround is primarily due to the fact last year's team was not nearly as bad talent wise as their final record. That was a 7-5, 4-4'ish team that completely mailed it in the last half of the season. You look at how tough they played Clemson and LSU, that's not the same team that was losing every game by 50 the last half of the season.
Chizik clearly "lost" the team horribly at some point.
Malzhan is actually getting them to play up to their potential, which he of course should get props for.
The Chiz blew his wad in 2010. He did a jam up job. Then in 2011, he got complacent and lost control of the team. I dont think may true Auburn fans will disagree with that.
We have talent. We have had talent since 2009. We just did not play as a team since the beginning of 2012. 2011 was a decent year considering what we lost
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:09 pm to LanierSpots
Chiz was never a good coach. He had a mediocre defense and the combination of NKOTB Malzhan/Newton put that team over the top.
Anybody could have been the head coach and the result would have probably been the same.
Anybody could have been the head coach and the result would have probably been the same.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:10 pm to Gnar Cat21
This play tells everything about the attitude Malzahn has instilled in these players. I remember Julio Jones doing stuff like this.
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:12 pm to Lycanblooded
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Lycanblooded
That was an awesome play. The fact that they are playing this hard after losing to LSU early goes to show how much they believe in each other and Gus.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:14 pm to CrimsonCoast
Sorta disagree. Chizik was the right personality with all the shite surrounding the program in 2010
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:17 pm to Tiguar
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Sorta disagree. Chizik was the right personality with all the shite surrounding the program in 2010
This is the correct answer. Chiz dropped the ball but his "Head coaching" job in 2010 was flawless. Most coaches would not have kept it together with all that shite flying around.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:21 pm to SemperAuburn
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Didn't follow A&M prior to them joining the conference so I havr no idea what Sumlin had on the shelves when he took over and can't say one way or the other
This was the 2-deep in 2011: (2012 starters in bold)
QB: Ryan Tannehill (RSR), Jameill Showers (RFR)
HB: Cyrus Gray (SR), Christine Michael (JR)
WR: Jeff Fuller (SR), Nate Askew (SO)
WR: Ryan Swope (JR), Malcome Kennedy (RFR)
WR: Uzoma Nwachukwu (JR), Kenric McNeal (JR)
TE: Nehemiah Hicks (SO), Hutson Prioleau (RSO)
LT: Luke Joeckel (SO), Cedric Ogbuehi (RFR)
LG: Brian Thomas (RJR), Jarvis Harrison (RFR)
C: Patrick Lewis (SO), Danny Baker (RSR)
RG: Shep Klinke (SO), Evan Eike (RSR)
RT: Jake Matthews (SO), Rhontae Scales (RSO)
DE: Tony Jerod-Eddie (SR), Spencer Nealy (JR)
DE: Jonathan Mathis (SR), Ben Bass (RSR)
DT: Eddie Brown (SR), Kirby Ennis (RSO)
OLB: Damontre Moore (SO), Caleb Russell (JR)
ILB: Jonathan Stewart (JR), Kyle Mangan (RJR)
ILB: Garrick Williams (RSR), Steven Jenkins (SO)
OLB: Sean Porter (JR), Donnie Baggs (FR)
CB: Terrence Frederick (SR), Lionel Smith (RSR)
CB: Coryell Judie (RSR), Dustin Harris (JR)
FS: Trent Hunter (SR), Steven Terrell (JR)
SS: Steven Campbell (JR), Howard Matthews (SO)
See if you can pick out some key names missing from that lineup who were already on campus
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:24 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Lord have MERCY! This thread is about Auburn - why in the world do some of you Aggie's always feel the need to interject aTm into damn near every thread?
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:26 pm to Lycanblooded
quote:That play right there was the deciding factor for me. I knew without a doubt that Malzhan had turned the '12 chicken shite into chicken salad for AU. He and his staff have been able to get in the heads of those players and they want to fight like true AU Tigers.
Lycanblooded
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:32 pm to RT1941
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Lord have MERCY! This thread is about Auburn
Actually, this thread applies to both. It shows what the right coaching hire can do to a talented team that is poorly coached.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:39 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Larry Coker says hi.
No, Larry says Gene you suck.
In his six years at Miami Coker won a natty and three conference titles. He never had a losing season and finished under .500 in conference play once. He also lost fewer overall games (15) in six seasons at Miami than Gene lost (19) in three seasons at Auburn. Larry's also .500 in a little over two seasons at Texas San-Antiono and they're a startup program.
Larry's not on anybody's short list of great coaches, but he's got Gene by a mile.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:43 pm to JustGetItRight
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In his six years at Miami Coker won a natty and three conference titles.
With Butch Jones' recruits.
Here was Coker's record:
2001: 12-0 (bowl win)
2002: 12-1 (bowl loss)
2003: 11-2 (bowl win)
2004: 9-3 (bowl win)
2005: 9-3 (bowl loss)
2006: 7-6 (bowl win)
Notice the sharp dropoff between 2003-2004, the first year with almost all of his players.
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Larry's also .500 in a little over two seasons at Texas San-Antiono and they're a startup program.
Actually, he's UNDER .500 (14-15) and got blown out by DENNIS FRANCHIONE.
This post was edited on 10/21/13 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:49 pm to WDE24
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hate Jake Holland like we do.
That's pretty problematic because we love Jake Holland so much the REC's using some left over ref money to buy him an extra year.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:53 pm to genro
Chiz is candidate for all kinds of "worst" awards. Worst dressed on game day - the dentist's smock was pretty funny. Chiz's poor performance makes me think that Cam may be the best college football player ever. He just had one year but he won about 4 games on his own. I don't think Tebow is close. Herschel maybe. Chiz seemed to know that finally year that he had "been found out" so to speak. I would not consider him for any college coaching job.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:54 pm to JustGetItRight
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Larry Coker says hi.
So does Barry Switzer
The worst coach to win an SEC Championship award goes to Mike Dubose
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