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re: Auburn's AD just posted a video begging the fans for money to buy players.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:13 pm to RT1941
Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:13 pm to RT1941
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I’d estimate $25million for a top level football team another $15-$20mm for recruiting, $12mm for men’s basketball +$5mm for recruiting, $5mm for baseball, and +/-$2mm spread among the ladies sports.
Those real inflated numbers I’m sure, but we’ve heard rumors of what QB prospects are pulling before they ever sign with a team.
So you think for Football per player :
$416K per year for upperclassman
$800K per recruit
For BB: $1.3M per player
Baseball: $160K per player
I think you underestimate what will be expected in Football and Basketball. Who knows what it is going to take in Baseball.
Do you actually think Bama could even keep up with your estimates, much less the reality of some of the other schools?
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:20 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:Since we already are I’m curious as to why you’re even asking the question
Do you actually think Bama could even keep up with your estimates, much less the reality of some of the other schools?
Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:25 pm to Luke
That’s tough. I know down periods happen to everyone (I’ve been around for several), and sometimes they’re necessary to rehab your program.
How long do you think it will take to clean this up?
How long do you think it will take to clean this up?
Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:32 pm to llfshoals
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Since we already are I’m curious as to why you’re even asking the question
One year with Saban begging for money. Longterm it is not going to happen. Remember, the pot is not bottomless and there will be new infrastructure projects that will come from the pot.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:38 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:You obviously haven’t been to Tuscaloosa in a while.
One year with Saban begging for money. Longterm it is not going to happen. Remember, the pot is not bottomless and there will be new infrastructure projects that will come from the pot.
The money pouring in is ridiculous. I’ve got a ringside seat watching it (ok, helping it along a bit too)
Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:38 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Auburn already tapped out paying curles
Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:49 pm to llfshoals
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You obviously haven’t been to Tuscaloosa in a while.
The money pouring in is ridiculous. I’ve got a ringside seat watching it (ok, helping it along a bit too)
Was there a few weeks ago. You must know academic buildings are usually paid with pork (Thank Shelby for now), Athletic infrastructure comes for the alumni. It is going to have be one or the other in the future for Bama from a NIL vs Project programs. NIL is not sustainable at the level you will see at A&M, Texas and USC. Their alumni pot is very deep due to the type of graduates they produce.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:50 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:I’m not worried about Bama keeping up and considering what’s been spent on infrastructure in just the last decade, funding future improvements and expansions won’t be a problem. Now when I see our PTB lay a coach on the chopping block in an effort to embarrass and humiliate him in order to fire him with cause to avoid a buyout only to turn around and retain him, then to watch his recruiting fall to the bottom half of the conference while boosters withhold funds to see if he can right the ship I’ll be concerned.
One year with Saban begging for money. Longterm it is not going to happen. Remember, the pot is not bottomless and there will be new infrastructure projects that will come from the pot.
SO much of Auburn’s issues are of your own making.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:55 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Oh I'll do you one better.
I'm done with all sports. Have no desire to watch a single sport on tv, much less give them any of my money.
I'd rather watch the wristwatch revival channel on youtube.
I'm done with all sports. Have no desire to watch a single sport on tv, much less give them any of my money.
I'd rather watch the wristwatch revival channel on youtube.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:57 pm to Colonel Ingus
quote:Rumor has it she’s been dismissed, I was told she left with a nice $30,000 severance.
They’d have better luck if they sold Clesi nude ca
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:06 pm to i am dan
quote:It’s a damn shame when a once robust fan base becomes apathetic about sports.
Oh I'll do you one better. I'm done with all sports. Have no desire to watch a single sport on tv, much less give them any of my money. I'd rather watch the wristwatch revival channel on youtube.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:15 pm to RT1941
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I’m not worried about Bama keeping up and considering what’s been spent on infrastructure in just the last decade, funding future improvements and expansions won’t be a problem. Now when I see our PTB lay a coach on the chopping block in an effort to embarrass and humiliate him in order to fire him with cause to avoid a buyout only to turn around and retain him, then to watch his recruiting fall to the bottom half of the conference while boosters withhold funds to see if he can right the ship I’ll be concerned.
SO much of Auburn’s issues are of your own making.
As far as AU is concern people are detached to the reality of the day and want to create their own narrative to prop their program. Harsin wasn't thrown under the bus by the PTB or put on the chopping block by them. The accusations were made by people within the AD who were grunts at best or disgruntled players who were pampered by Gus. If the PTB wanted Harsin gone, he would be gone. AU had to investigate the accusations like any school today, they didn't have to release a comment on the on-going investigation, but those same people spread the rumors. Nothing concrete came out of the investigation, but Harsin was made aware of some of his personality traits that would not serve him long term.
Bama is not going to be able to maintain that NIL budget ($50M+) and the infrastructure is usually on a 10 cycle. Bama builds it and then pays for it (which is something I like). Auburn pays for it and then builds it (Depression Mentality). That is going to change for schools like Bama. Auburn is going through some much need changes within the AD and the University. Growth has been capped and the academics have taken priority over that growth. Bama has grown, but with OOS who will go home when things are done. Bama thinks they can maintain funding with those individuals. It is a risk and if it doesn't work out it will be a choice of academics vs athletics. I know what the alum would actually choose, but there will be a lot of pressure from the masses.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:09 am to StopRobot
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Harsin was a stupid hire
On paper (in terms of his overall record), it's a good hire, but only time will tell if it'll translate into success in the SEC.
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 7:24 am
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:19 am to RT1941
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[H]e’s a damn sight better than that hokey Jay Jacobs
Not really. From everything that I've heard, the guy barely sets foot in the office, and in addition to that, he has managed to alienate all of the PTBs. (From the rumor mill, the only reason that he hasn't been fired is that he's black, and Auburn doesn't want to deal with the negative, PR backlash of firing a black AD in today's "woke" society, etc.)
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 7:25 am
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:27 am to rbtgoodson
quote:I heard those same rumors about his absence in the office but that was in the wake of covid, not now. I also heard that Gen Burgess likes him, the way he operates and that they work well together.
Not really. From everything that I've heard, the guy barely sets foot in the office, and in addition to that, he has managed to alienate all of the PTBs. (From the rumor mill, the only reason that he hasn't been fired is that he's black, and Auburn doesn't want to deal with the negative, PR backlash of firing a black AD in today's "woke" society, etc.)
Harsin hurt some feelings and by the end of the season he likely lit into some coaches and players after losing 5 straight games. Perhaps he was callous and unloaded on some players & coaches and made it personal?
Was it Derek Mason, Caddy, some disgruntled players that took their grievances to Rev. Chet who them took it up the chain of command to AD Greene & Dr. Gogue which resulted in the investigation? Someone inside the AD leaked internal information and ran with salacious rumors on social media which ended in a fire storm that the AU Administration handled poorly.
The leak did more harm to Auburn than that insider likely intended because it appears it sunk any chance at a decent recruiting class and it places Harsin on a pressure keg to excel immediately. And if IronPup is correct, it places Allen Greene's future employment squarely on Harsin's shoulders as well.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:48 am to llfshoals
This is the same situation UA faced during the pappy price and Shula years. It will require an AD change and the hiring of a HC that can unify to power brokers. Probably 36 months to be a contender. Less than 6 months to rid ourselves of Harsin and Green; expect resignations/firings in Dec - Jan 23.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:05 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
"Pay our players 'cause Milt McGregor is dead and Bobby Lowder is in prison."
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:46 am to RT1941
Greene will survive if Harsin survives this year. Harsin is his hire and really has some people convinced he has the work ethic to get the job done, we will have a clue in December. Greene has done a very good job with the non-revenue sports and Basketball, he has changed the culture there of ignoring those sports.
Caddy did not have a problem with Harsin, I believe he liked the hardnose approach he took to the program. Caddy was the one who convinced Tank to stay when others (some around the program at one point) tried to get him to transfer. The complaints against Harsin did not go up the chain, they were made through the formal channels. Which prevented anyone in the chain to throw dirt on it. That is the new environment in every aspect of our society today. Auburn handled it correctly and most of the complaints were stomped out early, that is why the rumors were made public by the accessors in order to start a campaign to pressure the dismissal of Harsin. Gogue just ignored it until the final report was done.
Caddy did not have a problem with Harsin, I believe he liked the hardnose approach he took to the program. Caddy was the one who convinced Tank to stay when others (some around the program at one point) tried to get him to transfer. The complaints against Harsin did not go up the chain, they were made through the formal channels. Which prevented anyone in the chain to throw dirt on it. That is the new environment in every aspect of our society today. Auburn handled it correctly and most of the complaints were stomped out early, that is why the rumors were made public by the accessors in order to start a campaign to pressure the dismissal of Harsin. Gogue just ignored it until the final report was done.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:13 am to BrotherDawg84
Well, Bobby Lowder is not in prison and there's this little thing called the NIL now, so none of that matters anymore anyway.
Auburn better start making some NIL connections though and fast.
Auburn better start making some NIL connections though and fast.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:44 am to RT1941
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It’s a damn shame when a once robust fan base becomes apathetic about sports.
This has nothing to do with Auburn specifically and how much we suck.
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