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re: Auburn officially wins the 1983 NCAA football National Championship
Posted on 5/29/21 at 7:35 pm to Jawilder
Posted on 5/29/21 at 7:35 pm to Jawilder
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Lol they can claim whatever they want. Auburn didn’t win or was recognized by anybody. NCAA doesn’t recognize it anyway.
NYTs claimed them champs, as good as any other publication.
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Posted on 5/29/21 at 7:40 pm to Irons Puppet
1983 Auburn deserved it. The Miami vs Nebraska thing had more to do with Snells media appeal. 1983 Auburn was more deserving than 2004 Auburn simply because the rules were what they were in 2004.
Oh yeah, check the NFL careers of the talent on USC an Auburn in 2004. Auburn was clearly the more talented team. It's not debatable. USC benefited from the ESPN hype machine.
Oh yeah, check the NFL careers of the talent on USC an Auburn in 2004. Auburn was clearly the more talented team. It's not debatable. USC benefited from the ESPN hype machine.
This post was edited on 5/29/21 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 5/29/21 at 7:42 pm to TTsTowel
In 1983? Yes. 
Posted on 5/29/21 at 7:43 pm to C W
Here look again NCAA Record Book
Page 118 I believe. Recognized by ncaa. They even talk about each individual service that recognizes National champions before things got unified years later.
Page 118 I believe. Recognized by ncaa. They even talk about each individual service that recognizes National champions before things got unified years later.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 7:46 pm to StopRobot
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I would argue after WWII you should only count AP, UPI/Coaches,
The problem with this is it is subjective and history as shown those polls are bias. Hell, the BCS and the CFP are still beauty pageants. In 2010 it's ridiculous TCU didn't get an objective shot even if I believe they would have lost. The fact that college football doesn't have an objective way of determining the champion in 2021 is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 5/29/21 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 5/29/21 at 7:47 pm to Jawilder
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NCAA doesn’t recognize it anyway
The NCAA doesn't officially recognize a NC. They only acknowledge what the school claims.
ETA: If Auburn is really officially claiming a National Championship for '83 (which I disagree with), the NCAA will update their page to reflect it.
This post was edited on 5/29/21 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 5/29/21 at 7:57 pm to Scoper
After 4 decades of Auburn crying about Alabama's national championships, Auburn goes and claims one that Alabama wouldn't claim.
If Alabama ever drops 1941 like it should, that combined with this would make my day.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:01 pm to 3down10
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If Alabama ever drops 1941 like it should, that combined with this would make my day.
But they won't! And bama 1941 was less of a claim than Auburn 1983.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:02 pm to Tigerman97
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Oh yeah, check the NFL careers of the talent on USC an Auburn in 2004. Auburn was clearly the more talented team. It's not debatable. USC benefited from the ESPN hype machine.
They beat the brakes off of you the year before in your place.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:03 pm to 3down10
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Alabama wouldn't claim
And then you acknowledge that the school officially claims 1941. I don't agree with retroactively claiming 1983 but you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:04 pm to ptclaus98
quote:What does that have to do with 2004?
They beat the brakes off of you the year before in your place
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:05 pm to ptclaus98
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the year before
It's almost like some of you don't understand sports.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:05 pm to Tigerman97
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But they won't! And bama 1941 was less of a claim than Auburn 1983.
Not really. The math era ends in 1936 when the AP poll is created. Alabama was awarded it by a math ranking. Some say it's because the AP was so biased against the south back then, but I don't think it's valid. I will say the only ranking worse than Alabama claiming it was Alabama's ranking in the AP, but shite happens.
Auburn is claiming math rankings 47 years later. You notice Alabama doesn't claim undefeated 1966?
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:08 pm to borotiger
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And then you acknowledge that the school officially claims 1941. I don't agree with retroactively claiming 1983 but you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.
Then explain 1966. Alabama won the national championship the previous 2 years, went undefeated in 1966, finished 3rd in the AP/Coaches. The #1 team was Notre Dame who tied Michigan St rather than go for the win, and then didn't even play in a bowl game.
The only thing I can say about 1941 and 1983 is that neither of them are valid claims. But claiming a math ranking 47 years after the poll era is worse.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:11 pm to ptclaus98
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They beat the brakes off of you the year before in your place.
There are about 500 examples of why this logic is flawed. They beat the brakes of the previous coaching staff that couldn't figure out how to use the NFL talent on the roster.
This post was edited on 5/29/21 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:21 pm to 3down10
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Auburn is claiming math rankings 47 years later
Alabama started claiming 1941 in the 80's so I'm pretty sure using time elapsed is meaningless.
I don't agree with claiming '83 but stop comparing your '41 claim to Auburn's supposed '83 claim. Your team came in 3rd in the conference that year.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:24 pm to GambitAUfan
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Here look again NCAA Record Book
Page 118 I believe. Recognized by ncaa. They even talk about each individual service that recognizes National champions before things got unified years later.
It was unified in 1983. AP or UPI. Thats it
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:24 pm to 3down10
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Then explain 1966
I don't care if you claim '66 or not.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:26 pm to TTsTowel
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What does that have to do with 2004?
He was responding to what your fellow Auburn fan said:
"Oh yeah, check the NFL careers of the talent on USC an Auburn in 2004. Auburn was clearly the more talented team. It's not debatable. USC benefited from the ESPN hype machine."
That's a pretty dumb argument to make considering USC shutout Auburn at Jordan-Hare the year before. Clearly, 2003 and 2004 USC were great college football teams, their players' success in the NFL ranks aside.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:28 pm to RollTide1987
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the year before
These words keep showing up in the same order. Odd.
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